Isis or Hollowtech / X-type
dhxcme
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Which cranks would you have.
Let me set a scenario which i came up against. It's getting dark, your six miles from anyway of getting home it's threatening to rain and you offside crank drops off.
Now if i had hollow tech or x-type i'd be screwed as i forgot my allen keys.
Luckily i had isis (get you out the sh*t) drive so i just slid the crank back on and made it back home.
I'm sticking with isis but i'm just wondering what others say.
Let me set a scenario which i came up against. It's getting dark, your six miles from anyway of getting home it's threatening to rain and you offside crank drops off.
Now if i had hollow tech or x-type i'd be screwed as i forgot my allen keys.
Luckily i had isis (get you out the sh*t) drive so i just slid the crank back on and made it back home.
I'm sticking with isis but i'm just wondering what others say.
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not sure on this one, ive always used isis but for the new build i want saint hollowtechs just because not much can go wrong but i do always take allan keys out with me0
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go with shimano there is a little pin that holds the crank on it shouldnt fall off even if the pinch bolts come looseFig rolls: proof that god loves cyclists and that she wants us to do another lap0
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saints/hollowtechs only need an allen key to fix most things :P0
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I had a set but just not the one for my cranks which isn't normal. I had saints on my bike before it got nicked and to be honest they weren't anything special.
Also they ARE isis cranks but shimano octalink work the same.0 -
stubs wrote:go with shimano there is a little pin that holds the crank on it shouldnt fall off even if the pinch bolts come loose
a what?
thereis a preload bolt and 2 pinch bolts. where is this "pin"?"Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
Parktools :?:SheldonBrown0 -
If you fit them properly and check them periodically they don't fall off mid-ride in the 1st place.It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.0
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That would be anouther f*ck up on my part. washed and greased everything but must have missed it on the torqueing up. still got home without walking so not all bad.0
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Marjory Stewart BAxtor wrote:
Square Taper!!! :twisted:0 -
I don't mind square taper - served the generation before well.
Just don't let it anywhere near Marjory Stewart BAxtor's cranksTrain hard, ride easy0 -
dont know if its on the latest hollowtech cranksets but on mine and a couple of mates sets there is a small plate that pivots on one of the pinch bolts on this plate there is a small pin that locates in a milled hole on the crank axle when you undo the pinch bolts you have to lever up this plate before you can remove the crank arm
it was quite funny watching my mate try to remove the crank arm because he had forgotten about this we stopped him just as he was going to get the big hammer outFig rolls: proof that god loves cyclists and that she wants us to do another lap0 -
just had a quick look on the shimano site the 2008 cranksets have the safety pin as well download the pdf for the xt crankset and its part number 4Fig rolls: proof that god loves cyclists and that she wants us to do another lap0
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Square taper, UN72 if you can find them.
Fit and forget.Cotic Soul 26 inch. Whyte T1300 -
I had a RaceFace X-Type BB.. It lasted about 200 muddy miles before I had to buy a replacement. I bought a Shimano one this time, as they last a lot longer.0
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the shimano hollowtech II tension cap tool is nylon, weighs all of 25gm and size of a small biscuit so not really hard to put in your backpack along with your allen key multi tool - that is all you ever need to strip off or reinstall Hollowtech II cranks
you are right that later versions of HT2 come with a "safety plate" with a hardened steel pin that locks into a hole in the axle to prevent the crank working loose if something happens to the pinch bolts or tension cap (and which you must remove or loosen before trying to remove the non-driveside crank arm)
however, i have been running Hollowtech II cranks since they came out (LX, XT and Saint) and have never had one "fall off" unlike square taper (which i've also had SNAP on me leaving a nice scar up my calve muscle)...
..or X-Type which kept working loose as the spline friction fit became worn
or ISIS which was a bad joke in terms of b/b life
or Truvativ Howizter which uses the ISIS interface with external bearings and cranks that seem to like jumping off the axle stub at their own pleasure
HT2 it is thencheck out my riding - www.robcole.co.uk Banshee Factory Team rider, Da Kine UK Team rider, www.freeborn.co.uk www.eshershore.com0