Why does every one hate TREK Madone

cakewalk
cakewalk Posts: 220
edited March 2008 in Workshop
OK. I've just brought one. After spending a quiet day or two at work trawling through bike forums I've noticed that these bikes (and there owners) come in for a fair bit of stick.


Why?
"I thought of it while riding my bicycle."
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  • Mog Uk
    Mog Uk Posts: 964
    God help you if it's also got Shimano and you wear Rapha......... :twisted: :lol:

    I've not seen much 'Madone' basing on here to be honest, I quite like the look of them myself. At the end of the day as long as you're happy that's all that matters..

    Welcome to the forum aswell.... :D
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  • cakewalk
    cakewalk Posts: 220
    Mog Uk wrote:
    God help you if it's also got Shimano and you wear Rapha......... :twisted: :lol:

    I've not seen much 'Madone' basing on here to be honest, I quite like the look of them myself. At the end of the day as long as you're happy that's all that matters..

    Welcome to the forum aswell.... :D

    Fraid it is shimamno. No Rapha - even I can see that I'd look a bit of a plank.
    First ride this w/e - expecting to note a bit of an improvement over my 2000 Peugeot Pulse ...
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Madone's are good frames, but unfortunately they aren't very "Euro".

    They are technically good frames, but unfortunately the branding isn't very stylish.

    Cycling is all about style isn't it? That's why the Italian stuff is always pretty popular.
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  • cakewalk
    cakewalk Posts: 220
    redddraggon wrote:
    Madone's are good frames, but unfortunately they aren't very "Euro".

    They are technically good frames, but unfortunately the branding isn't very stylish.

    Cycling is all about style isn't it? That why the Italian stuff is always pretty popular.

    When I set about choosing my new bike (I know very little about bikes) I had two key criteria

    - Steel or Ti
    - European

    !

    Very little time to buy and also wanted to buy very locally. First bike I saw that I really liked.

    Anyway -off to the Rapha website ..
    "I thought of it while riding my bicycle."
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Beautiful bike the Madone.

    Enjoy yourself on the Rapha website :wink:
  • pieinthesky
    pieinthesky Posts: 417
    Through history, warfare has been the way to take over the world ..... until now, there is now another way, The American Way.

    Instead of armies they have huge immensly powerful corporations, instead of weapons they have cleaver marketing. (and just for good measure, when all else fails they have armies and weapons too)

    Trek is part of this, Armstrong was their cruise missile. :evil:
  • cakewalk
    cakewalk Posts: 220
    pieinthesky wrote:
    Through history, warfare has been the way to take over the world ..... until now, there is now another way, The American Way.

    Instead of armies they have huge immensly powerful corporations, instead of weapons they have cleaver marketing. (and just for good measure, when all else fails they have armies and weapons too)

    Trek is part of this, Armstrong was their cruise missile. :evil:

    I guess I should have looked for a bike with a Fairtrade logo on it ...
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  • heavymental
    heavymental Posts: 2,076
    Alot of things from the USA come in for alot of stick these days. A testement to the excellent work done by Bush and his cohorts.
  • GeorgeShaw
    GeorgeShaw Posts: 764
    Heavymental wrote:
    Alot of things from the USA come in for alot of stick these days. A testement to the excellent work done by Bush and his cohorts.

    I know. Hate the US as represented by Bush and the corporations. But having ruined their economy, everything is now so cheap ... :?
  • cakewalk
    cakewalk Posts: 220
    Heavymental wrote:
    Alot of things from the USA come in for alot of stick these days. A testement to the excellent work done by Bush and his cohorts.

    So he worked on the new Madone?
    "I thought of it while riding my bicycle."
  • Lagavulin
    Lagavulin Posts: 1,688
    Didn't like the look of the old one but the 2008 models do look good.

    Intend on looking at/trying the 5.2 Performance model.

    Will it disuade me from buying a Wilier Izoard or Orbea Orca? I suspect not.
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  • heavymental
    heavymental Posts: 2,076
    I'm not saying its right or wrong. Its just a bike at the end of the day and it'll serve you as well/better than many others. It doesn't represent anything as such but some people will think that it does.
  • mrushton
    mrushton Posts: 5,182
    Lovely looking bike. Ist choice - Pinarello Prince, but a madone would be on my shopping list. I own a 5500 and it's a superb bike for the price it was and what I've had from it.
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  • disney
    disney Posts: 51
    I tried one and it is on my very short list to buy this year. I care not a jot for any stick.
  • Turnbull2000
    Turnbull2000 Posts: 189
    Snobbery mate, that's all. I ride a Madone 5.9 SL and usually hammer other style concious riders on hill climbs, so there's probably an element of bitterness too :D
  • taffyscouser
    taffyscouser Posts: 190
    edited February 2008
    Madone's made in the USA???????? :roll: :oops: :lol::o

    Bet there are a handfull of eastern factories churning these out for all sorts of manufacturer's. I have an S works, a Roubaix Exp and Trek Madone circa 2005 just had to remove the Made in T?@Wa£ stickers off the specialised's and under no illlusion that the Trek was made in any USA factory. All good bikes. Not a fan of the new Madones with a seatpost that is limiting size wise when re sale comes around for differing sized buyers. Still a cracking bike though.
  • simbil1
    simbil1 Posts: 620
    Hate is a bit strong :wink:

    I think it's perceived as a kind of lacking imagination purchase - walk into shop with fat wad and buy the best bike from the most famous brand. There is also the suspicion of the buyer haven fallen for dubious marketing along the lines of 'as ridden by Lance'.

    Personally, I wouldn't worry about it unless I was hopelessly slow in which case I would worry about looking like all gear and no idea.
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  • cakewalk
    cakewalk Posts: 220
    simbil1 wrote:
    Hate is a bit strong :wink:

    I think it's perceived as a kind of lacking imagination purchase - walk into shop with fat wad and buy the best bike from the most famous brand. There is also the suspicion of the buyer haven fallen for dubious marketing along the lines of 'as ridden by Lance'.

    Personally, I wouldn't worry about it unless I was hopelessly slow in which case I would worry about looking like all gear and no idea.

    Good points. Not quite hopelessly slow (40 miles a week on my Brompton helps here).

    Lance who :?:
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  • heavymental
    heavymental Posts: 2,076
    Lance who used to be in Neighbours.
  • APIII
    APIII Posts: 2,010
    Heavymental wrote:
    Lance who used to be in Neighbours.

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  • heavymental
    heavymental Posts: 2,076
    Oh was it? I thought Lance was Billys mate in Neighbours circa 1998?!
  • APIII
    APIII Posts: 2,010
    Lance and Martin, circa 1988. Lance was the thick one. Was never much of a neighbours fan, so maybe there was another one. Sure they both rode Treks though :)
  • heavymental
    heavymental Posts: 2,076
    Hahaha....damn my memory and the depth of rubbish on the internet. I was able to find this...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Wilkinson

    Cakewalk...the reason people hate Trek Madones is because Lance WIlkinson rode one in Neighbours.

    :lol:
  • The The
    The The Posts: 28
    redddraggon wrote:
    Madone's are good frames, but unfortunately they aren't very "Euro".

    They are technically good frames, but unfortunately the branding isn't very stylish.

    Cycling is all about style isn't it? That's why the Italian stuff is always pretty popular.


    Just to throw a littel devil's advocate in here...

    Isn't your latest bike more or less brandless, thus being afflicted by not having a "stylish" name attached to it? :wink:

    Not that I can talk. I ride a Condor Leggero that is made from Dedacciai tubing. But if I ever get into Rapha I imagine I'd have the perfect bike for it.

    As for style, I agree. This is why I bought the silver shoes and have bright red bar tape. I try to avoid the monochrome black look whenever I can.
  • heavymental
    heavymental Posts: 2,076
    from the Andrew Bibby page...."After leaving Neighbours rumours circulated that Andrew Bibby tragically died in a pole-vaulting accident. This prompted hundreds of calls and emails by upset fans to the show's producers in Melbourne, Australia. However, this rumour was soon found not to be true when after several years absence Andrew made a brief return to Neighbours."

    :lol:
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    The The wrote:
    Isn't your latest bike more or less brandless, thus being afflicted by not having a "stylish" name attached to it? :wink:

    Does Cipo's bike have a stylish big brand name attached to his bike (apart from his own)?

    It's a Dedacciai frame, so it's Italian (although probably made in Taiwan) - I just need to get some decals.
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  • Lagavulin
    Lagavulin Posts: 1,688
    Heavymental wrote:
    from the Andrew Bibby page...."After leaving Neighbours rumours circulated that Andrew Bibby tragically died in a pole-vaulting accident. This prompted hundreds of calls and emails by upset fans to the show's producers in Melbourne, Australia. However, this rumour was soon found not to be true when after several years absence Andrew made a brief return to Neighbours."
    :lol:

    I remember his girlfriend, Amy, being well fit! :P
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  • Nuggs
    Nuggs Posts: 1,804
    Heavymental wrote:
    Cakewalk...the reason people hate Trek Madones is because Lance WIlkinson rode one in Neighbours.:
    That got my biggest laugh of the day. Priceless. :lol:
  • a_n_t
    a_n_t Posts: 2,011
    cakewalk wrote:
    When I set about choosing my new bike (I know very little about bikes) I had two key criteria

    - Steel or Ti
    - European

    !

    I just had one...........................italian :wink:
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  • The The
    The The Posts: 28
    redddraggon wrote:
    The The wrote:
    Isn't your latest bike more or less brandless, thus being afflicted by not having a "stylish" name attached to it? :wink:

    Does Cipo's bike have a stylish big brand name attached to his bike (apart from his own)?

    It's a Dedacciai frame, so it's Italian (although probably made in Taiwan) - I just need to get some decals.


    Good point!

    I was eyeing it up when I was shopping for a carbon frame. Sadly, Condor moved to the Ribelle frame for their Baracchi this year, which I think is a step down aesthetically compared to the Nero Corsa that they used last year.

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