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victorponf

YOU can support Alberto Contador after his team Astana has not been invited to the 2008 Tour de France.

If you want to enjoy again the attacking cycling of 2007 Tour de France and you think that the Tour should invite Alberto and his team, please leave your signature in this webpage, so that among WE ALL try to convince the Tour to change its idea


Portuguese writer José Samarago (nobel prize) during a demonstration in Madrid in 2004. He said: “Nowadays, there are two superpowers in the world. The one is the United States. The other one is YOU, the Public Opinion”.


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Regards

redddraggon

Why would we want to do that?

paullaming

Surely after their recent record on doping/ blood manipulation we'll get a cleaner tour and slightly more level playing field without them. It may also send out the right message to other teams thinking of doping on the same scale as Astana i.e. YOU COULD MISS THE BIGGEST (£££$$$) BIKE RACE IN THE WORLD IF YOU OFFEND.
I'm afraid that in this overly PC nanny state world cycling's powers may just have to get more threatening to clean it up. Excluding Astana is a great start. Yes it will mean that the current TDF champion will not have the opportunity to defend his title for I think the 3rd year running but in my opinion it made for a better spectator event the last couple of years and prevented one team (Disco) from running the race which was just dull.

Harry Hill

I've signed.

A system that is not consistent = a system that is not fair.


HH

redddraggon

Harry Hill wrote:

I've signed.

A system that is not consistent = a system that is not fair.


HH

Huh? ASO can invite who they want, it's their race after all.

Would you invite somebody to a party at your house if you didn't like them?

skavanagh.bikeradar

Ha! Quite.

Kléber

victorponf wrote:

If you want to enjoy again the attacking cycling of 2007 Tour de France

Let's bring back Rasmussen, Vinokourov, Mayo and Kacheskin too!

alanmcn1

I'd rather sign Sonia from Eastenders arse crack

secretsqirrel

redddraggon wrote:

Huh? ASO can invite who they want, it's their race after all.

Would you invite somebody to a party at your house if you didn't like them?

Ah! I have often wondered if the TDF was a party masquerading as a sport.

z000m

Contador only has himself to blame, joining a team with reputation such as astana.

Salsiccia

victorponf wrote:

If you want to enjoy again the attacking cycling of 2007 Tour de France and you think that the Tour should invite Alberto and his team, please leave your signature in this webpage, so that among WE ALL try to convince the Tour to change its idea

Why, will this get Rasmussen back in too? He did just as much attcking as Contador, and more effectively too. And I can't see him being allowed to ride...

Sorry, but Contador should have looked for a different team, one without the history (but that isn't going to remove the Puerto suspicion over HIM).

victorponf

Kléber wrote:

victorponf wrote:

If you want to enjoy again the attacking cycling of 2007 Tour de France

Let's bring back Rasmussen, Vinokourov, Mayo and Kacheskin too!

If it´s fair Astana case, then get out Cofidis, Saunier Duval and the New Telecom as well, ASO is just taking revenge (Bruynell, UCI (said c´mon you can´t say no to Astana) and Astana)

I´m going to sign

redddraggon

Dodgy Website wrote:

ECTIFY IS OF WISE PEOPLE

Spanish singer-songwriter Ismael Serrano begins one of his songs remembering the words of Portuguese writer José Samarago during a demonstration in Madrid in 2004. He said: “Nowadays, there are two superpowers in the world. The one is the United States. The other one is YOU, the Public Opinion”.

That is why this initiative arises, so that YOU can support Alberto Contador after his team Astana has not been invited to the 2008 Tour de France.

If you want to enjoy again the attacking cycling of 2007 Tour de France and you think that the Tour should invite Alberto and his team, please leave your signature in this webpage, so that among WE ALL try to convince the Tour to change its idea.

The Tour makes cyclists become important, but cyclists also make the Tour become important.

*

This is an independent initiative that arises from the fans of the good cycling, but that does not depart from any team or association. We do not want to cause any controversy, we only want to show our support to Alberto Contador and to his team.
*

In order to guarantee the credibility of the signatures that will be appearing in this web, please introduce true information.

Shame about the poor translation

Brian B

paullaming wrote:

but in my opinion it made for a better spectator event the last couple of years and prevented one team (Disco) from running the race which was just dull.

You must have been watching a different channel from me. There has been a major scandal for the last several years - yeah thats a great spectator event.

Kléber

victorponf wrote:

If it´s fair Astana case, then get out Cofidis, Saunier Duval and the New Telecom as well, ASO is just taking revenge (Bruynell, UCI (said c´mon you can´t say no to Astana) and Astana)

Let's look at Cofidis. Moreni tested positive but he wasn't on some team programme, he admitted buying the stuff himself and didn't even ask for his B-sample to be tested, he admitted guilt. The rest of the team were known as clean riders, guys like Chavanel, Wiggins and the DS is openly against doping. You can say similar things about Telekom/High Road, even if they were economical with the truth.

Compare this to scandal ridden Liberty Seguros and then Astana, where it's clear that doping was part of the team's way. The team stuck two fingers up at ASO. Thanks to Vino's scandal especially, parts of the French media stopped reporting the results of the race (imagine if the British press didn't report the Ashes, if the US press didn't publish basketball scores etc) and German TV walked out from the race.

Besides, Contador is free to ride. It would make perfect sense for him to join a French team for July. Of course, the behind the scenes back-up might be different but all the more reason for him to prove his talent to us...

It's a shame ASO is trying to create the rules, it shouldn't. But given the inability of the UCI to police the sport and the disgraceful antics of the Astana team, it's legitimate to monitor their ways this year. If all's well, they can come back in 2009. Personally, I would have chucked out Rabobank too...

victorponf

redddraggon wrote:

Dodgy Website wrote:

ECTIFY IS OF WISE PEOPLE

Spanish singer-songwriter Ismael Serrano begins one of his songs remembering the words of Portuguese writer José Samarago during a demonstration in Madrid in 2004. He said: “Nowadays, there are two superpowers in the world. The one is the United States. The other one is YOU, the Public Opinion”.

That is why this initiative arises, so that YOU can support Alberto Contador after his team Astana has not been invited to the 2008 Tour de France.

If you want to enjoy again the attacking cycling of 2007 Tour de France and you think that the Tour should invite Alberto and his team, please leave your signature in this webpage, so that among WE ALL try to convince the Tour to change its idea.

The Tour makes cyclists become important, but cyclists also make the Tour become important.

*

This is an independent initiative that arises from the fans of the good cycling, but that does not depart from any team or association. We do not want to cause any controversy, we only want to show our support to Alberto Contador and to his team.
*

In order to guarantee the credibility of the signatures that will be appearing in this web, please introduce true information.

Shame about the poor translation

You can help them if you want...send them the correct traslation

We, the spaniards, have a poor english level (generally)

micron

Contador can't - or won't - cut the ties that bind him to Astana/Liberty/ONCE/Saiz/Bruyneel. I wonder why that is and fear that I already know the answer. He's been excluded from 2 of the last 3 Tours for his ties to that squad...

Why should I want to see him ride when, probably about halfway through the race, he'll be led away in tears after he is definitively linked to OP - along with Kloeden and Paulhino.

And, as a few other posters have said, if we want attacking riders in the race then I'd rather Rasmussen was in than Contador - I've followed Bertie since before his accident but his TdF performance was deeply disappointing, almost entirely counter attacking Rasmussen who was the really exciting rider in that Tour.

DaveyL

This is an excellent idea. Can we tie the signing of this petition to the signing of one asking that Bertie gives a sample of his DNA to the Peurto investigators?

Thought not.

secretsqirrel

People seem to forget that as as far as Astana are concerned, Liberty Seguros is only one 'parent'. Vino, Kessler and Mazzoleni, along with DS Mario Kummer and Walter Grodefroot, were all ex T-Mobile.
T-Mob/High Road are allowed to race by the Grace of the ASO, despite a number of embarassments of their own in 2007.
If ASO are claiming to make a stand against doping, why are they not doing it properly?

PS victorponf, your English is superior to our Spanish.

andy_wrx

Sign this ? No way.

Dodgy rider, dodgy team, dodgy DS and management, etc


Is there a petition to reinstate Festina as well ?

afx237vi

Surprised no-one has mentioned...

http://www.letleviride.com/

I've signed neither FWIW. I disagree with ASO's decision, but it is their race, and you can't say the move was unexpected. Levi and Bertie should have known the risks.

micron

I don't think ASO have gone far enough - but then they haven't announced the TdF teams yet. They are saying loud and clear to all other teams 'be clean or you won't race the TdF'. It's a high risk strategy which makes me believe ASO are motivated by a desire to get rid of the cheats, however self serving their motive.

victorponf

DaveyL wrote:

This is an excellent idea. Can we tie the signing of this petition to the signing of one asking that Bertie gives a sample of his DNA to the Peurto investigators?

Thought not.

In the firts interview to Fuentes (days after have been jailed) he said don´t kmow nothing about Contador (and without direct question, and them Contador wasn´t famous, indeed Alberto have said c´mon i offer my blood, test it (Valvity and other prefers close their mouth)

Just one more thing, this test never will do, many footballers, tenis players and other sportmans are involved for sure

There are a spanish idiom: Powerful gentlelman is mister money......

Regards

LangerDan

afx237vi wrote:

Surprised no-one has mentioned...

http://www.letleviride.com/

I'd buy a tee-shirt but don't know whether to replace my "I believe Tyler" or "Floyd Fairness Fund" apparel.

They could have found a better* picture of Levi - that photo on the home page makes him look like the sort of person you wouldn't let babysit

(* - not withstanding the fact that he is a short, bald, scrawny cyclist)

colint

alanmcn1 wrote:

I'd rather sign Sonia from Eastenders ars* crack


Robert Millar for knighthood

But you'd knight Robert Millar, a convicted doper ? Nothing like consistency is there ?

afx237vi

colint wrote:

alanmcn1 wrote:

I'd rather sign Sonia from Eastenders ars* crack


Robert Millar for knighthood

But you'd knight Robert Millar, a convicted doper ? Nothing like consistency is there ?

1143 posts on a cycling forum and you still don't know the difference between Robert Millar and David Millar?

andyp

afx237vi wrote:

1143 posts on a cycling forum and you still don't know the difference between Robert Millar and David Millar?

Erm, Robert Millar was convicted of a doping offence, testosterone I believe, and was banned for, if memory serves, 3 months. It was during his TVM days.

afx237vi

andyp wrote:

afx237vi wrote:

1143 posts on a cycling forum and you still don't know the difference between Robert Millar and David Millar?

Erm, Robert Millar was convicted of a doping offence, testosterone I believe, and was banned for, if memory serves, 3 months. It was during his TVM days.

Aaaaaaaand now I have egg on my face. Apologies to colin.

cougie

If I were ASO - I wouldnt invite Astana either. They cheated last year and they deny it. Even the Kazakh federation are saying that Vino and co were clean. They fool no-one.

And anyone who went to Astana must have been aware of the likely ban. Did no other team want these riders ? I wonder why.

colint

afx237vi wrote:

andyp wrote:

afx237vi wrote:

1143 posts on a cycling forum and you still don't know the difference between Robert Millar and David Millar?

Erm, Robert Millar was convicted of a doping offence, testosterone I believe, and was banned for, if memory serves, 3 months. It was during his TVM days.

Aaaaaaaand now I have egg on my face. Apologies to colin.

Accepted

colint

cougie wrote:

If I were ASO - I wouldnt invite Astana either. They cheated last year and they deny it. Even the Kazakh federation are saying that Vino and co were clean. They fool no-one.

And anyone who went to Astana must have been aware of the likely ban. Did no other team want these riders ? I wonder why.

Not sure if it was nobody wanted them or nobody would pay the money, maybe it's the same thing ? I think a few people enquired about Conta but the price put them off.