Chainring rubbing against the chainstay. Solution???

spocky
spocky Posts: 67
edited February 2008 in Workshop
My inner chainring (part of a double) was a couple of mm away from chainstay when I fitted a new bottom bracket (mirage 111mm English thread) and chainset.

Now after a few hundred miles it is rubbibg against the chainstay.

Is there any other soultion to this other than buying a new longer bottom bracket.


I was thinking about getting the triple mirage BB at 115mm and puting my doublechainset on it to try and stop it rubbing.

Comments

  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    you could:

    1. fit a smaller ring (may not be possible or ideal)

    2. space the BB with a spacer on the driveside (which would bring the non-driveside arm nearer to the chainstay on the other side, and you'd be a tad asymmetrical but this probably would be unnoticeable). I'm assuming the BB has a lip on the driveside, like Shimano BBs

    3. fit a wider BB axle, as you say

    4. hit the chainstay with a large hard thing to make a dint to give more clearance (bit drastic I know but I've done it on a commuter before now)

    5. can't think of a five
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  • spocky
    spocky Posts: 67
    AM INTERESTED IN YOUR NUMBER 4 SOLUTION AS IT IS A STEEL FRAME. HOW DO I DO IT WITHOUT DAMAGING THE FRAME OR MAKING IT WEAKER

    DON'T WORRY I WON'T HOLD YOU LIABLE IF I DO IT AND IT DOESN'T WORK.

    COULD YOU EXPLAIN A BIT MORE ABOUT USING A SPACER. WHERE YOU GET ONE HOW YOU DO IT.

    STUART
  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    your LBS should have them. I've got a couple and they are 2mm wide with an inner diameter of 35mm.

    If you have no luck then I'll send you one.

    As for purposefully denting a frame, you just mark where you need the dent, aim well, and clout it with a hammer. Takes a bit of nerve but it's cheap :wink:
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  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    the spacers that come with HT2 BB cups should also do the trick I reckon
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  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    Some cassette spacers work fine as BB spacer. Your LBS should have some - many of todays integrated chainsets come with spacers to accommodate undersize BB shells. To install, remove cranks and BB - install spacer on fixed/drive-side of BB and refit cranks. Make sure that there is sufficient clearance on non-drive side between end of crank and chainstay.

    Suggest you don't try number 4 without supporting the inside of the chainstay, otherwise you could just distort the alignment of the frame or even worse crack the stay.
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  • Ken Night
    Ken Night Posts: 2,005
    spocky wrote:

    Is there any other soultion to this other than buying a new longer bottom bracket.
    .

    You may need to understand why this is happening before you bash the chainstay with a hammer :D ....as it may not solve the problem

    Is the pedal end of either crank, very close to the chainstay?

    If so,

    1 you may have "widened" your square taper (quite common if you have changed the cranks from bike to bike or from Campag onto a Shimano BB) which means the crank will be closer to the middle of the bike

    2 alternatively, you're using a bike with a wide section seat tube-not all builders think this through properly

    Either way you need a longer axle-and of course AFAIK, Campag don't do one

    Try TA who make nice light ones with long axles. Let us know how you get on?
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  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    spacers are 2.5mm wide actually, so you'd need at least this much clearance between your non-driveside crank arm and the chainstay, otherwise you'll just move the problem to the other side of the bike...
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  • redvee
    redvee Posts: 11,922
    The spacers are AKA freewheel spacers as BB and freewheels share the same thread diameter and I think pitch, 1.37" x 24tpi. I've got one on my BB at the mo to adjust the chainline on my SS, like you if I run the c/ring on the inside of the spider I'd have a groove in the c/stay.
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