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Disc only frame with V mounts

edited February 2008 in MTB workshop & tech
Marjory Stewart Baxtor is a self build using a Be one stelis frame.

There is a disc mount as well as v mounts on the stays, however the cable routings only seem compatible with hydraulic discys - there isn't a stop for a ferrul like you'd expect, only a recess with room to cable tie, so until I can pick up my discy adaptor I'm running a pair of old vees but I'm using a solid stretch of housing that's cable tied to these recesses however when I pull hard on the lever the housings slide along the recesses under the tension of the cables as there is no stop for the ferrul so I loose a lot of braking power and break a lot of cable ties.

Is this a common things with frames and is there a solution?? It seems to me like a design fault to put V bosses as I can only see that this frame is only compatible with hydralics on but I don't know if there is a trick I'm missing.
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  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 50,675 Lives Here
    Err sounds like you have not got the routing correct. you do not need any stops. just run a full length from lever to noodle. sorted.
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  • supersonicsupersonic Posts: 82,708 Lives Here
    My BeOne Drone frame has stops for cantis.
  • nicklouse wrote:
    Err sounds like you have not got the routing correct. you do not need any stops. just run a full length from lever to noodle. sorted.
    That's what goin awn at the moment but I have to cable tie the housing to something (ie, just lash it to the top tube) otherwise it just swings to and fro.
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  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 50,675 Lives Here
    so? what is the question? cable tie it.

    Or have i totally missed the point?

    pictures.
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  • well lookin at the routing as the cable is tightened, there is far too much "slip" as the housing slides its way up the frame which means I cannot adjust the brake properly
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  • supersonicsupersonic Posts: 82,708 Lives Here
    The stops are only important when using exposed inner: and the noodle doubles as a stop as it enters the brake for the full length outer. Many bikes come with dual use cable stops, and the hose clips in next to it.
  • supersonic wrote:
    Many bikes come with dual use cable stops, and the hose clips in next to it.
    that sounds about right. Is there any interweb examples of this so I can see if it's true for marjory stewart baxtor or is there a name for this that I can search?
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  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 50,675 Lives Here
    tbh it will easier if you provide pics of your problem.
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  • cool. Watch this space....
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    ici la.

    as you can see, the middle mounting is just a cable tie for the rear brake housing, when the cable is tensioned the housing slides along which reduces braking performance
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  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 50,675 Lives Here
    normal. sorry still see Zero problem or issue.
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  • the cable inside the outer casing should move freely which means the cable tie will hold the outer casing, the only reason it would keep snaping your cable ties is because your tightening them too much and stopping the inner cable being able to move, not sure you can buy anything little add ons for this tbh. i think its a poor design in the frame.

    hope thats a little help too you.
  • nuts to it, I'll just buy a disc calliper;

    shame though as i was set on the idea of using xtr vs with mavic ceramic rims.

    ho hum
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