quick question

~Adam~

do you think the head angle is too slack? it came with rigids but its too rough on my wrists so i put some rst's on untill i get some dirt jams or dj's. these are 26" but the wheel is 24".

so, too slack? or ok to ride?

Anonymous

looks a bit steep if you ask me. there again im more of an xc'er.

~Adam~

ah rite, well its slacker than it was with the rigids on and i dont fancy cracking my head tube with it being too slack.
Should this be a question for the street section?

mattv

YES!!!!!!!!!!
You have put a suspension fork on a bike designed for rigids........ Voids the warranty too, and we will know;-) Will handle like an oil tanker as well. Try it down the street!

Marjory Stewart BAxtor

what forks are they? Looks to me like the steerer tube has met the fork at a drastic angle. I'd suggest that it's designed for a bike with a lot of travel.

Also, be really careful with the forks, uness theyu're designed for trials , you'll find hydraulic fluid in your socks

nicklouse

crap topic heading and a bike that has problems.

try to use better headings. i would not be using that bike for anything other than riding to the shops. is that fork 120mm or 100mm? if you go jumping be aware it is not a jump fork and that frame oh.

~Adam~

well it steers fine which is what i thought would be effected the most.

And those are RST's... so no there not designed for a bike with a lot of travel lol.

What do you mean i will find hydraulic fluid in my socks?

how is it a crap heading?? i thought this would be a question with a quick answer which is why i used the heading 'quick question'. Its 120mm. Also, even if it's not a jump for it dosent mean its going to snap if i go do jumps which is what i was expecting to hear at some point, that fork has been through a 4x race and a hell of a lot of DH and i have had no problems at all with it.

I have been riding for years and it seems to me that if you dont have a bike costing an arm and a leg all you get is stick. Im only 19 but mountain biking has changed a lot over the past few years and maybe not for the better, i remember when nobody cared what bike you had aslong as you rode and had fun, but now it seems to be all about the best kit :?

Andy B

It's a crap title as it's not very descriptive. A better title would have been something like ' Are these RST forks OK on my Saracen Amplitude.'

The issue with the fork is the stress it will put the frame under due to the head angle.

It doesn't matter what bike you ride, if you use crap titles you will get stick, I'm sure there is something in the forum rules about using a descriptive topic title.

Will Snow

hey, ive been in this situation before, people round here get a little obsessive about having "correct" thread names and b******ks like that, i wouldnt let it get to ya, but being more specific normally means quicker (and more accurate!!!) results. and yeh, some people are more worried about what they ride, its just a fact of life (normally the poeple who have thousands of posts on here and reply to every single "what tyre should i get, i need grippy, fast rolling, all conditions, lightweight and strong" thread kinda things).

anyway, down to business...

the saracen website shows your model of frame (amplitude right???) with an 100mm fork, so i would personally be wary of running a 120 for jumping (lots of stress on the headtube kinda jobby). oh and the oil in your socks??? i assume that means they think your fork will break. hope this helps bud!!!

~Adam~

thats more like the answer i was expecting, just a simple explination rather than silly comments.

Well it was a quick question hence the name, but i see were your coming from.

Where i come from it seems to be all about what you ride rather than how you ride and i have noticed it creeping up into forums tbh. I just want to have fun and ride but i cant afford expensive bikes and parts so i make do with what i have and what i can afford.

Andy B

I don't see where you get this bike snobbery thing from.

Some bikes are better than others, even some expensive bikes are complete dogs.

As for the more post counts the more likely you are to be a bike snob, you really are talking crap.

Will Snow

~Adam~ wrote:

Where i come from it seems to be all about what you ride rather than how you ride and i have noticed it creeping up into forums tbh. I just want to have fun and ride but i cant afford expensive bikes and parts so i make do with what i have and what i can afford.

good luck to ya. i still cant afford thousands on a bike, yet i still get covered in mud at every available opportunity. oh and saracens are good bikes, the frames will keep going forever!!!

~Adam~

Will Snow wrote:

hey, ive been in this situation before, people round here get a little obsessive about having "correct" thread names and b******ks like that, i wouldnt let it get to ya, but being more specific normally means quicker (and more accurate!!!) results. and yeh, some people are more worried about what they ride, its just a fact of life (normally the poeple who have thousands of posts on here and reply to every single "what tyre should i get, i need grippy, fast rolling, all conditions, lightweight and strong" thread kinda things).

anyway, down to business...

the saracen website shows your model of frame (amplitude right???) with an 100mm fork, so i would personally be wary of running a 120 for jumping (lots of stress on the headtube kinda jobby). oh and the oil in your socks??? i assume that means they think your fork will break. hope this helps bud!!!

i stand corrected... that is the kind of reply i was looking for!! Yes you have hit the nail right on the head with that one!

I do understand that they run a 100mm fork, i just have these lying around so i thought what would be the harm in trying them out, i have not done anything serious on it yet as i wanted to make sure it would be ok to ride, i will be getting some 100mm forks sharpish as i dont think my wrists can take the stick of rigids much longer

cheers for the reply!

~Adam~

Will Snow wrote:

~Adam~ wrote:

Where i come from it seems to be all about what you ride rather than how you ride and i have noticed it creeping up into forums tbh. I just want to have fun and ride but i cant afford expensive bikes and parts so i make do with what i have and what i can afford.

good luck to ya. i still cant afford thousands on a bike, yet i still get covered in mud at every available opportunity. oh and saracens are good bikes, the frames will keep going forever!!!

Yep exactly! i have ridden a saracen havoc for nearly 2 years and it has took just as much stick and hammering (if not more) than bikes that cost an arm and a leg and it rides good as new! i admit its not the standard spec but the frame is solid, and i know that this one is gonna do what i ask of it (after i get my forks ).

Will Snow

i dont honestly see how your average joe could go quicker on a £5000 bike than a £1000 bike, to be perfectly honest. ive never seen someone with less than 1000 posts bad mouth someone elses bike (unless there a complete noob, who should perhaps spend more time reading before commenting...) anyway, now im ranting.

and no problem!!

The Big Cheese

Interesting topic - and I can see it from both sides.

One of the good things about fora are that there are all different levels/types of riders with varying skill/experience and who have vastly differing rigs.

The one common bond is the subject matter that applies to that particular fora - in this example biking. Let's not lose touch of the fact that's why we are all here and obviously we all enjoy it immensely and that's our common ground.

with regards to snobbery, of course it's going to exist, but you don't have to look very far in the 'real world' outside that it exists in every facet of human modern-day society.

Clothes, cars, jobs, education, taste in wine, food - in fact there will always be elitism in everything and everyone... however...

There will always be the 'all the gear no idea' crowd who through money at things just to get 'one up' on other people. But that's NOT to say that someone with a £2+k rig is one of them... hell there are a lot of members of this forum who spend a lot of money on their bikes (I'm one of them) but that's because it's my passion, my hobby, basically it equates to a lot of my time and expense. But does it make me a better rider - I must say the answer is no. I can ride just as good on a cheap bike but why should that stop me buying my dream rig? I think not.

Not everyone on here is a snob, there is a wealth of expertise and technical wisdom frequenting the corridors of bike radar and obviously you will get a couple of people like anywhere else that think that it makes them better than you because they have better kit.

All I can say is develop a thick skin and let's all get back down to talking about biking. After all that's what we're here for is it not?

And also, you will get stick for bad grammar, incorrect headings and being vague - but again that's just like being in work, it's a part of life.

Anyway dude, hope this helps and good luck getting your new (100mm ) forks....