T-Junctions

redvee

Tell me why cars must overtake you in the final 50 foot approach to T-junctions? This morning I was approaching a T-Junction and was aware of a car approaching from behind, as the corner is cut by cars coming the other way I wasn't near the white line but in the middle of the lane approaching the junction. The car behind came round me and was more on the wrong side of the road than right. He was going too fast as the ABS kicked in when he hit a drain cover when trying to slow down. He turned right as did I and headed towards the red light 100yds away. With the lights red I took full advantage of the ASL and thought to myself what did you last manouvre acheive?

skyway

because some drivers are impatient cnuts who think risking life for a few saved milliseconds is acceptable behavior.

Just cycle in the primary position and keep them from overtaking in the first place.

A - W

I've given up trying to understand other road users.

The things you see some of them do, whether I am in the car, cycling or riding the motorbike are silly.

Many don't see past the first hazard and appreciate they might plan for others up the road.

The main thing is not to get bogged down with ohters and move on, some people get so angry at others actions. For me it's not worth the time and effort to try and figure them out. If they can be figured out?

:shock:

BentMikey

It's rule number 1: ALWAYS over take the cyclist, no matter how dangerous, stupid, or pointless it is.

If you were about to turn right, signalling right with the palm of your hand facing backwards can sometimes prevent a stupid overtake because it looks a little like STOP!

Sea_Green_Incorruptible

It drives me bananas when I'm on my bike too. Gestiuclating and gurning like a monkey bananas.

That is until the other day when I found myself in a car doing the same thing without thinking which pulled me up a bit. :oops:
Not in a major or dangerous way. I did not accelarate past and then slam on my brakes, but I did overtake a cyclist when I could see there was junction not too far up ahead. Que cyclist catching me up within about 20 seconds... Duh..

When I thought about why I'd done it, I reckon it was to do with the way I've got into the habit of driving: concentrating on the immediate obstacles to negotiate in front; trying to give cyclists space; taking a safe opportunity when one comes... without ever really thinking ahead long enought to put everything together and realise the futility of that particular maneuver. E.g. driving from maneuver to maneuver rather than driving to the journey as a whole if that makes sense.

Anyway, I suppose the long and short of it is that sometimes these things happen by accident - and I do wonder whether we as cyclists sometimes underestimate how stressful and befuddling it can be to drive a car in traffic (another good reason to get on a bike but there you go). No excuse of course, but I reckon it happens more often through oversight than barefaced idoacy/arrogance...

Gussio

It really gets my goat when cars overtake cyclists who are clearly signalling right, be it to turn at a junction, or overtake a parked car or slower cyclist. One of the worst feelings on the road is knowing that the car behind isn't slowing or pulling over despite a clear signal. When this happens, 9/10 it is barefaced idocy / arrogance rather than oversight, IMHO.

redvee

Another bad sttitude towards cyclists was demonstarted y'day on the A36, just after the turning and railway bridge for frome cattle market for those who know the area coming from Warminster. We were in a line of traffic, 2 HGVs and our vehicle an LGV. There was a cyclist ahead riding effectively in the gutter, the other side of the whiteline. The 2 HGVs in front indicated and moved out 2-3 foot to give the cyclist clear airspace . The driver of our van saidi what were they doing as there was plenty of space for the cyclist :x , cue some biting of tongue on my part. 2 Foot is what you move our for a cyclist, not the total amount of space you give us.

t4tomo

At least teh car turned right - I've had taxi do exactly the same, but only get along side me and then turn left!