Rubber thing between froks and frame

willy b

Right last couple of time i have been riding i have seen people with these rubber (inner tube like things) between the u in the forks and just under the headtube, what they hell are they? What they do? They just look daft imo :shock:

Will Snow

err there mudguards. each to their own i spose, would find a pic but im too lazy. i dont un mudguards, but then again my bikeing clothes cost me, ooh about a tenner. including shoes.

nicklouse

willy b wrote:

Right last couple of time i have been riding i have seen people with these rubber (inner tube like things) between the u in the forks and just under the headtube, what they hell are they? What they do? They just look daft imo :shock:

DH bikes? at races? yes they are bit of tube. stops the crap off the front wheel from getting in your face.

Splasher

Thet work well with a crud catcher because the CC stops the muck hitting your face directly and the tube stops it being flung out in front of you only for your face to collect it as you pass.

Will Snow

goggles do the same job

nicklouse

Will Snow wrote:

goggles do the same job

Nope they dont the crap still get you on the face/goggles and then you cant see where you are going. :roll:

stumpyjon

These?
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=24478

I thought they were pointless until just after Christmas I was out doing my local loop when the trail turned into a stream. It was gently downhill so I was going faster than normal and it was like riding into a wall of water flying up from the front wheel. Got one on order with CRC but they don't have stock and keep putting the delivery date back

Will Snow

nicklouse wrote:

Will Snow wrote:

goggles do the same job

Nope they dont the crap still get you on the face/goggles and then you cant see where you are going. :roll:

err tear offs??? plus if you actually look where your going then your eyes focus past the dirt on your goggles, and you cant even see it.

willy b

There the jobs! The still look daft lol! :roll:
But i do kind of see the point, bit like mud guards really, they just look silly, but do do a good job!

nicklouse

Will Snow wrote:

nicklouse wrote:

Will Snow wrote:

goggles do the same job

Nope they dont the crap still get you on the face/goggles and then you cant see where you are going. :roll:

err tear offs??? plus if you actually look where your going then your eyes focus past the dirt on your goggles, and you cant even see it.

still quicker not to have to use the tearoffs.

yes i have tearoffs and yes i fit a tube when needed.

and a tube over that neoprene guard any day as the tube does not hold water.

drewcole81

Will Snow wrote:

nicklouse wrote:

Will Snow wrote:

goggles do the same job

Nope they dont the crap still get you on the face/goggles and then you cant see where you are going. :roll:

err tear offs??? plus if you actually look where your going then your eyes focus past the dirt on your goggles, and you cant even see it.

So when your riding for a long time in wet muddy conditions, how many tear off layers are you going to have on your goggles then!?

nicklouse

drewcole81
Word. also seen the cost of tear-offs!

Splasher

I was going to fit an inner tube to the fork, but instead had a wash/wipe system fitted to my goggles.

clas

really splasher what a ridiculous amount of weight.
I have designed and built a "clear view" screen similar to those on ships bridges with a rotating pastic spinner right in front of your eyeline that flings the mud/water off to the side when it hits. the only problem is that the electric motor does get in the eye line rather obscuring your vi............. ow

Will Snow

err, well i dont use tear offs. i just use goggles, and when they get muddy, i clean them. takes about 15 seconds (and frankly if your riding trails that cover you in so much crap going from top to bottom in such a way that you cant see anything in one run, then you shouldnt be riding them). mates use tear offs though, they seem to manage them ok.

Word. also seen the cost of tear-offs!

seen the cost of new lenses??? :roll:

Splasher

Hmmmm - I'm torn.

On one hand, Will Snow says their no good and just goggles are fine.

On the other worlds and world cup champion, Sam Hill, says an inner tube on the fork is essential in the wet and the mud and uses one to good effect.

What's a bloke to do?

supersonic

Well, Sam Hill uses flats, what does he know? ;-)

nicklouse

Will Snow wrote:

err, well i dont use tear offs. i just use goggles, and when they get muddy, i clean them. takes about 15 seconds (and frankly if your riding trails that cover you in so much crap going from top to bottom in such a way that you cant see anything in one run, then you shouldnt be riding them). mates use tear offs though, they seem to manage them ok.

Word. also seen the cost of tear-offs!

seen the cost of new lenses??? :roll:

15 seconds mid race is not an option. and taking one hand of the bar to use a tear off ? well i aint that good and i hate big jumps.

So the best option is to stop as much crap reducing your vision in the first place for the least weight.

it a shame that i will not be able to fit one to the fork i will be running this year.

Will Snow

running a manitou i assume (backwards arch???)

and also, i never said 'they were no good'. oh, and steve peat, quite possibly the greatest racer of recent memory, uses an automatic tear off system. we can argue like this all you like. is up to you...

Splasher

I suggested an inner tube is good in the mud and the wet because it stops the mud hitting your face. You suggested using goggles elluding to the following:

use tear offs,
don't use tear offs they're too expensive but don't ride in the mud
use an automatic tear off system.

I concede that I was wrong, you are right and your suggestions are more practical and cost effective.

Will Snow

if you actually notice, my first post, aout using goggles was light hearted and a joke. obviously you have no sense of humour, so realising this i thought id take this p*ss. and great fun it was to!!! i dont really care if anyone wants to put inner tube on their frame, crud catchers or neoprene guards, i dont care if people use tear offs or anything. and most of my posts were written whilst drunk!!

Splasher

You're right, now I've re-read your first post in conjunction with your last I've LMAO. What a wit. And do you know, I had no idea I was being taken for a ride - you are a cunning fox.

Will Snow

dont beat yourself up. not alot of people can compete with my stunning intellect.

Will Snow

oh and just as a side note:


automatic tear offs. sorry, best picture i could find. used by MXers, some dhers.

Splasher

Will Snow wrote:

dont beat yourself up. not alot of people can compete with my stunning intellect.

Clearly, we were all dumfounded by it. We just thought you were giving sh!t advice when in fact you were leading us a merry dance. Huzzah!

ride_whenever

what a cunning stunt...

Will Snow

oh dear, did i upset you??? im very sorry. i think its quite funny its gone from me saying goggles keep crap out of your eyes, and i dont use mudguards, to you spitting out your dummy saying i give bad advice (depite the fact i havent actually given advice, just told people what i prefer). the fact that i answered the orginal question this topic was about in the first post, which you then repeated directly afterwards is beside the point...

Splasher

LMAO.

Will Snow

well that was a disapointing retort, to say the least.

cunning-stunt

ride_whenever wrote:

what a cunning stunt...

You called sir?

Once in the distant past I dismissed these crown/arch creatures,but now I can see their benefits...although I still don't have one :evil:

There's nothing quite like riding through sewage overflowing from a drain (with used tampon jammed against the arch of course) to convince you of the neccessity of certain items :oops:

Now if I could just get a dogshit guard..

supersonic

I have similar device, though less effective at blocking the mud: called me nose. Its crap at deflecting crap, but at recognising crap: oh yes. That will be a cow field I just rode through ooe er!