Fatty-proof town bike

dan..
dan.. Posts: 16
edited February 2008 in Commuting chat
Hi all, I'm looking at dropping some cash on a new bike, but I know very little about bikes, and not really sure where to look or what to look for, so I hope someone can point me in the right direction.

I'm a rather large chap (6'5" and about 20st), and am slowly destroying the Claud Butler hybrid the local bike shop sold me last year. I use it to get to and from work, and for general exercise in an attempt to lose a bit of weight. However, I'm not particularly chuffed with it.

I've managed to snap half a dozen spokes, knackered the rear hub (I've since had the rear wheel rebuilt with stronger spokes), and I think I've done something nasty to the rear derailleur.

It's also got front suspension, which I wasn't keen on, but the bike shop convinced me to get anyway (It's too squishy for me, so I keep the preload setting thing as tight as it'll go, so it's doing very little).

And v-brakes, which have nearly sent me upside-down into a bush on a couple of occasions when they get wet (I think that's due to the, uh, 'extra momentum' ;)). My girlfriend's significantly smaller (and cheaper) Dawes 301 hybrid feels much more stable and fun to ride.

So I'm thinking it's time to cut my losses, chuck it on ebay and get something else, preferably with disc brakes and no front suspension.

I quite like the look of this:
Kona Dew Deluxe: http://www.konabikes.co.uk/2008/dew/dew-deluxe.php

But I'm not sure if it's going to stand up to the abuse..

Any recommendations?

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    http://www.ukbikesdepot.com/products.php?plid=m1b0s18p102

    Have a good look at this one. The Marin Larkspur. Very light and simple bike (no suspension or anything).Decent frame and everythings sealed for those wet journeys
  • dan..
    dan.. Posts: 16
    Thanks for the suggestion!

    It does indeed look rather nice. Is there any particular reason you suggest that one?
  • dan..
    dan.. Posts: 16
    Also, am I barking up the wrong tree looking for another hybrid?

    Should I be looking at something like an MTB that will (I assume) stand up to a bit more abuse?
  • Random Vince
    Random Vince Posts: 11,374
    MTB's will stand up to abuse better than a hyrid of road bike, this is because they are built for abuse.

    sounds like you've had a bit of a bad un with your current bike, personally i'd take the forks off and sell on ebay and get some ridgid forks to put on

    the v brakes might not be working properly due to setup?

    could put magura HS33 hydrolic rim brakes on.

    cleaning the rims helps with braking as does changing the pads for harder ones.
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  • ratty2k
    ratty2k Posts: 3,872
    I'd have a look at what Random Vince said, rigid forks - much better for the intended use, and change the pads and levers on your current setup. Look at the Avid speed dial (£10 for both @ CRC) range with adjustable levers, or Shimano do a similar thing called servowave (LXM571) this will allow you to adjust the amount of power when pulling the lever.
    Also, there are much better brake blocks out there....
    try some Kool stop blocks, I have them fitted to my Kaffenback (Canti brakes) and they are miles better than the previous (original frogleg) pads.

    Saying that tho, the Kona Dew is a mighty nice bike!!
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  • dan..
    dan.. Posts: 16
    personally i'd take the forks off and sell on ebay and get some ridgid forks to put on
    I was under the impression that frames for suspension forks are a different shape to accommodate the extra length. It certainly seems that way from looking at pictures.

    Since I'm pretty tall, my saddle is already rather high.. Am I not going to end up with the front being significantly lower and a slightly awkward riding position?

    The v-brakes seem to be set up okay. I had the bike shop give them a once-over a while ago, and after a couple of scares I've been giving them a bit of TLC every few rides. They're alright, but they require a lot of love to keep the stopping power up and they're never great in the wet.

    I think the braking problems there are just a combination of the extra weight, riding style and the conditions around here (lots of big puddles when it rains, sometimes floods to ride through).
    ratty2k wrote:
    Look at the Avid speed dial (£10 for both @ CRC) range with adjustable levers, or Shimano do a similar thing called servowave (LXM571) this will allow you to adjust the amount of power when pulling the lever.
    These http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=1347 ..?

    Looks like an interesting idea.. Is a new set of levers and pads really going to make a significant difference, though?
    ratty2k wrote:
    Saying that tho, the Kona Dew is a mighty nice bike!!
    It is, isn't it? I'm kinda loathed to continue throwing money at my current bike, given that it has a couple of things I'm really not happy with and aren't really cheap to fix. Which is why I was looking at that one.

    My only worry with that though, is I'm going to be too heavy for it and flatten it. :(
  • Think about a steel frame. It'll cope with your size better, and hurt less on bumps. I'm a bit of a lump and I commute on a Condor Fratello. I really enjoy mine, and Condor were good people to buy from.
  • Random Vince
    Random Vince Posts: 11,374
    the difference between steel and alu only really shows up offroad.

    a fork such as the kona project 2 is meant as a replacement for suspension forks, although my personal preference would be for the on-one / planet X offering.

    if you want it to take some of teh shock out then you could use a carbon off road ridged fork , but i wouldn't

    mountain bike tires offer some suspension properties so you don't really need front or rear sus for on road.
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  • dan..
    dan.. Posts: 16
    I have no problems losing the suspension, the preload is set high enough that it doesn't do me much good anyway (apart from making the front lift a bit if I accelerate hard, which still elicits a minor panic).

    But isn't putting a rigid fork on it just going to lower the handlebar by a few inches?
  • dan.. wrote:
    I have no problems losing the suspension, the preload is set high enough that it doesn't do me much good anyway (apart from making the front lift a bit if I accelerate hard, which still elicits a minor panic).

    But isn't putting a rigid fork on it just going to lower the handlebar by a few inches?

    Not if you get the right fork which is set up to go on suspension frames. e.g the on-one http://www.on-one-shop.co.uk/acatalog/O ... d_365.html

    but to be honest if you have more problems with the current bike then I'd put the cash towards a new one
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  • dan..
    dan.. Posts: 16
    Not if you get the right fork which is set up to go on suspension frames. e.g the on-one http://www.on-one-shop.co.uk/acatalog/O ... d_365.html
    Ah just the ticket, cheers. Bit on the pricey side, compared to the kona fork, mind.
    but to be honest if you have more problems with the current bike then I'd put the cash towards a new one
    Well, this is my thinking exactly. It seems a bit of a shame as I doubt I'll be able to ebay it for very much. But then I do still have a cyclescheme thingy at work to take advantage of..
  • ratty2k
    ratty2k Posts: 3,872
    If you have a cycle to work type thingie going on- then I'd go for a new bike... If you do spend money on the old one you could possibly be thinking that its not that much better.
    Sometime its just better to cut your losses....
    I'm seriously biased, but the Kaffenback from On-One is seriously worth thinking about- can be run with either flat bar or drops- full mudguard provision steel frame and designed to do a little bit of off road.... Just my opinion (biased) :D
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  • dan..
    dan.. Posts: 16
    ratty2k wrote:
    I'm seriously biased, but the Kaffenback from On-One is seriously worth thinking about- can be run with either flat bar or drops

    What's the advantage of a steel frame? The frame is about the only bit I haven't broken on my bike..
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 992
    What about cyclo cross bikes - wouldn't they suit a heavier commuter?
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  • Random Vince
    Random Vince Posts: 11,374
    steel frames have a little bit of give to them, in that they can flex slightly and ping back,

    aluminium fatigues more, as i said earlier its more noticable riding off road

    again, with the suspention fork being replaced with a ridgid fork,

    you put a longer ridgid fork such as the kona project two or the on-one fork that was designed to go on their inbred frame.
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  • Vince is probably right that the difference is bigger off-road, but 20-stone into a commuter pothole does, I think, make it worth considering. I know I'm happier on steel.
  • dan..
    dan.. Posts: 16
    Thanks for the help everyone. It looks like I'm going to have to find a steel framed bike and give it a go.

    And I should probably give drop bars a go too, as I have almost zero experience with them and have previously discounted them.
  • alfablue
    alfablue Posts: 8,497
    The Kona Project 2 forks come in 3 lengths, standard, and 2 lengths for suspension correction, and also 700c. They also come in standard, butted, and triple butted (lightest) steel. Not all sizes / types are easy to find though, but they are very good forks IMHO.
  • Go for the biggest/strongest (thus US, in my experience) and cheapest you can find!

    At 16 stone and 6'2", I avoid anything expensive as (a) the frames snap (twice I've been in a two-unicycle situation) (b) I'm a cheapskate and (c) it's likely to be nicked, anyway (living in London).

    What's the point saving 10kg on a bike when I'm carrying 25kg+ in lard?

    The trick is good maintenance and armoured tyres pumped to 100psi (get a car foot pump)!
  • Clever Pun
    Clever Pun Posts: 6,778
    since we're talking about weight and frames... if you freewheel standing on one pedal... is that going to damage the frame at all?
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  • dan..
    dan.. Posts: 16
    The Lunch wrote:
    twice I've been in a two-unicycle situation

    Sh*t. Really?!

    You've given me the fear now. What in the world were you doing with it to cause that?