Ksyrium ES vs SL

kenbaxter

In market for some new race wheels. Ksyriums always pop their head up, others in frame are Eurus as am a Campy fan at heart!

What are the main diffs between the ES and SL Mavics?? Quick blast round the web seems to give reviews that the SL are bombproof and the ES more prone to breakage. Anyone got any feedback on either please.

Thanks.

gundersen

As far as I can read on the net:

the special edition ones are a BAD BUY because even though they are lighter and of a better quality they are very very expensive

the SL ones are a GOOD BUY because they are a lot cheaper and the weight and quality is not that much different.

Personally I have used the Helium's for 2 years with no problems at all.

Advantage today is that they don't make the spacial edition any more , so you may be able to get some cheaper.

gavintc

My wife uses Eurus and I have SLs. Both sets have cpvered a pretty good distance in the 2 summer use and neither have needed re-trueing. I liked the SL as it matched the colour scheme of my bike. But both are equally good. I really noticed the difference when I first fitted them - much faster uphill.

Brian B

The new Sls are just ES wheels that have been tweaked on the rear wheel for greater strength and stiffness. The new premiums are just all black SL wheels with titanium parts to shave 5 grams of weight.

The old SL wheels had a good reputation for being robust and being good for any discipline. I have two sets of the ES wheels and I have had no probs and I am no light weight.

BillR1

Brian,

I am on the market for a good all round light wheel and have considered both these wheels. As I weigh 63kg would these wheels be too stiff for my weight? I am running dura ace 7800 at the moment but would like a spare set of lighter weight wheels.

Bill

Tom Butcher

I have the ES - had them 20 months and no problems though I haven't covered a huge amount of miles on them - couple of thousand tops and all good weather riding or racing. I probably wouldn't pay the full retail price for them though.

grazer

i have been in the market for wheels recently.

i had some SL's (which came with my bike) however i sold them after a few hundred miles to fund the purchase of some 404's. In hindsight it wasnt such a great move since i still want to use my "best bike" but not the Zipps all the time. Anyway, i ended up buying some Easton EA90 SL's. These are light and stiff, but with 24/28 spokes should be strong enough for training too. They also make the SLX version which are lighter by 60grams due to 10 less spokes (18/24).

Only ridden them a couple of times but they feel really nice (feel the same as the SL's) and are a bit cheaper too. (I paid £390).

You may like to consider these too.

I cant comment on the campy's, but i thought the SL's were pretty good when i had them. Reasonably light (i think the eastons are lighter) and are pretty stiff. Mainly due to the big flat spokes they use.

Hope this helps

Grazer

Brian B

BillR1 wrote:

Brian,

I am on the market for a good all round light wheel and have considered both these wheels. As I weigh 63kg would these wheels be too stiff for my weight? I am running dura ace 7800 at the moment but would like a spare set of lighter weight wheels.

Bill

Bill both these wheels would suit you and if you put them on your Spesh carbon frame the ride wont be uncomfortable(and would make it climb a bit better in my reckoning) but given your weight I would also suggest either Fulcrum 1s or Zeros and the new Campag Shamal titanium wheels as these are even lighter and more aero(if that really matters to people such as us).

The wheels that you have are good bill but the wheels above IMO are a step above in terms of stiffness, weight and of course looks. There is nothing like a bit of bling to make make your bike go faster.

Unless weather is really bad Bill I will see you next Sat. My mate Neil from work has invited a couple of uber climbing females 'who want to check out the competition'. Thats their words not mines.

http://www.fulcrumwheels.com/jspfulcrum ... world=road

http://www.mavic.com/road/

http://www.campagnolo.com/techinfo.php?did=m

BillR1

Brian,

Thanks for the info mate. I like the ES's and the Fulcrum Zero's, what do you think from these two ?
I just turbo trained over the weekend due to the weather but I am looking forward to going out next Sat with the gang.
I want to get my wheels sorted for the sportive season, do you think these wheels are ideal for sportives??

Rgds, Bill

Brian B

Bill the ES are perfect for sportives as they are tough, reliable and easy to maintain. The Fulcrum Zeros also get a good review and although I am biased towards the ES wheels if I was you I would go for the Zeros. I got ES because I am tough on wheels and wanted a wheel that would suit my weight and rides which they do.

Check out the reviews below

http://www.bikecyclingreviews.com/faq/M ... lcrum.html

http://www.roadbikereview.com/cat/wheel ... px#reviews

BillR1

Brian,

Many thanks for your input. Thats it I am going for the Fulcrum Zeros and bonus is they are red which suits my S works colour scheme.

Hopefully see you next Saturday but if the weather is not good then you won't see the Fulcrums !!!

Rgds, Bill

ps: Do you know who is doing the best deals on them at the moment?

Brian B

Bill I had a quick look on Goggle and the cheapest were Bonethrone bikes at £664 compared to £675 pretty much elsewhere such as wiggle, slanes, parkerinternational etc but I am sure you could pick up a pair cheaper.

Maybe start a new thread as someone on the Forum will know a good deal or perhaps try Ebay. The Red Zero's look great bill and they are less common than the Es wheels.

BillR1

Brian,

Thanks again mate, I am on the case for a pair. My uncle is coming over from California first week in March so I may get him to bring them with him in a hard shell bike case which he is bringing me anyway.

Rgds, Bill