Which lock?

ESSEXMIRAGE
ESSEXMIRAGE Posts: 31
edited January 2008 in MTB buying advice
Hi guys n gals, so ive got my new Vulcan and intend keeping it mine so was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for types/makes/and quantity of locks I should invest in and where to get them ?? I have seen some packs of U shaped locks with cables too which I suppose will be good as the front wheel comes out so easy....was just thinking of going for a well known brand ie, Kryptonite, Abus or Yale but open to suggestions.....
Well im happy to get any ideas you may have, ta in advance
Essexmirage :D :P :D
Still loving my Carrera Vulcan but also loving my commuter converted Raleigh Record Sprint ooo it's so quick and a great commute hack yippeee get to ride it again in the morning . . . . . can't wait ha ha

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  • dhxcme
    dhxcme Posts: 1,467
    big chain (with sleave) and shutter lock. get it from the locksmith
  • mtb.boy
    mtb.boy Posts: 208
    The cables you mention that you can put through your front wheel can be cut with cable cutters (almost like a big pair of scissors) in about 5 seconds. So they are not much good really if you are leaving your bike for a long time.


    Get an "ABUS GRANIT 59" D-Lock, although this costs £100+ (designed for motorbikes so its really strong)

    or one of them almax chains, although they cost £50+ without a lock (designed for motorbikes so are really strong)

    or a kryptonite D-lock or chain.

    and then get some locking skewers/headset/seatpost pin if you are leaving your bike locked up unattended a lot.


    Depends how much you want too spend really. You could get a £2.99 lock. But this will only stop the most casual of thieves.

    My commuter bike has locking skewers/headset/seatpost pin and is locked up using the new kryptonite mini D-lock (which is the highest rated lock they sell) so I have spent about £100 on locks for it.

    My bikes at home have 2 chains, a kryptonite fahgettaboutit and a Magnum one- so thats £120ish keeping them safe.


    PS.
    I know where to get kryptonite stuff cheaper than RRP in UK (from a certain website, no I do not work for them).
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  • Thats what I thought about the cables, ....I know a guy who carries small boltcroppers in his car in case he get clamped and I recon even his small ones would make mincemeat of these cables in no time, so maybe a chain is the route to go and a meaty padlock .....would be a pain to lug around with the weight though :? :roll:
    Still loving my Carrera Vulcan but also loving my commuter converted Raleigh Record Sprint ooo it's so quick and a great commute hack yippeee get to ride it again in the morning . . . . . can't wait ha ha
  • S_J_P
    S_J_P Posts: 908
    I have a 12mm ABUS hardened chain attached to a ground anchor at home with an Abus Granit 37RK60 lock, along with a 2m 12mm cable which I intertwine with other items in the shed. This isn't cheap though (around £120)

    I also have another 12mm Abus chain and Granit lock attached to the bike-shed at work, so I don't have to carry it!

    I also have a short 8mm Abus chain and Granit lock which I carry around if I need to lock the bike elsewhere.

    Do remember that any lock is only as secure as it's weakest link though. My old bike was secured by a 12mm chain and Abus lock, but the thieving toerags cut through the ground anchors and took the chain, lock, bike, and strimmer still all connected together!!!!

    http://www.lockshop-warehouse.co.uk/aca ... ge_37.html
  • Mr bump
    Mr bump Posts: 369
    Ive got an 18mm chain, three ground ancours and a kryptonite holding two bikes together. and an allarmed garrage! :D
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  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    almax look very good, but some people have issues with their methods.
  • As many Sold Secure Gold locks as you can afford is a start, but more importantly (as I've just found out) a ground lock or anchor point is essential.

    (Just had my Giant Trance Stolen from my garage, complete with Magnum Sold secure Gold rated lock)

    I'm not taking any chances when my new Spesh FSR xc Expert arrives - Claymore mines, barbed wire, and connecting it to the mains should do it!!
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  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    I just remembered, you're not going to stop anyone who is determined, your best bet is good insurance and the cheapest lock on their approved lock list.
  • dhxcme
    dhxcme Posts: 1,467
    I just remembered, you're not going to stop anyone who is determined, your best bet is good insurance and the cheapest lock on their approved lock list.

    problem is that if you have anything over 3k it's cheaper to get some big locks and chains and put the thing in a nucular bunker.

    to insure a 3k bike cost 300 quid a year. That to me sounds like a p*ss take. I could get 3 12mm chains with ubber heavy locks and ground anchor for the first years premium.
  • I kinda agree with the insurance thing, but remember that the Vulcan was only ever a £399 bike when first out and although thats peanuts to many of you on here, its my starting point and whould kinda like to hold onto it as long as possible, I realise I can go and spend £100's on locks etc but was only thinking initially of out and about security but now im thinking of a groundbolt for the garage too, so its all totting up.....

    I am now leaning toward a big chain, biggest I can afford and possibly a Cisa shutter lock, the Almax chains look good on their site, (the cynical part of me would like to see their own chain attacked with the original set of jaws though !!??!!)

    So any suggestions or recommendations on the groundbolt too ?????
    Esae of use and fitting etc.......?
    Cheers
    Essexmirage :wink: :shock: :roll:
    Still loving my Carrera Vulcan but also loving my commuter converted Raleigh Record Sprint ooo it's so quick and a great commute hack yippeee get to ride it again in the morning . . . . . can't wait ha ha
  • I can understand what you mean. most expensive bike I've ever bought is around the £400 mark too, so I dont want to be spending 1/4 of that again on security, its just not feasible.

    I can recommend a decent Abus D-Lock, any of the £30+ ones is a good buy. After having 3 bikes stolen in 1 year around Manchester (plus 2 front wheels and 4 seat posts) I found the Abus to be good enough for leaving the bike around town. I wouldn't feel safe leaving it for a night or two around picadilly, but during the day/evening etc nobody managed to get it (and they tried judging by the score marks on the lock).

    Anotehr benefit of not using a normal padlock etc is that other keys don't fit in Abus locks. With a normal lock, particularly vindictive people can put a key in and snap it off, meaning you end up looking like a prune breaking your own lock off to get your bike back. Not fun to explain to passing policemen I can tell you!

    Plus the nice bracket attaches to the frame without adding stupid amounts of weight and you dont need to carry it around seperately. One more tip, if you lock your bike up with a D-lock, try to thread the lock through both the frame and the front wheel.
  • my local council are buying some of the local riders locks that have car alarm type affairs if the lock is pulled or cut it rings like mad!!!
    i am not sure of the name but could find out and re post
    stephen hall
  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    there is a dutch company that makes bike alarms for about £30 delivered. BTW you should always lock your bike through the rear wheel inside the rear triangle to something large and use a secondary lock for your front wheel, because your rear is much more expensive and doing that will stop them getting your frame as well.
  • endurojcb
    endurojcb Posts: 170
    A couple of these puppies should do the trick!

    http://www.evanscycles.com/product.jsp?style=11061

    And a quality anchor point, like this Shed Shackle, which you can attached to the wall of your garage!

    http://www.torc-anchors.com/shed-shackle.php
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  • Babbs
    Babbs Posts: 81
    3 german shepherds and one wife will be guarding mine when it arrives in a week. I would be more scared of the missus than the dogs!!

    How are you anchoring the lock to the floor??
  • Thanks for all the advice and suggestions, I honestly hadn't considered the locking it at home thing and kinda didn't know at first whether to get a lock for both home and out n about but after all the advice have decieded to go for the Abus granit x plus dlock as reviewed on here and a coiled cable for the front wheel and seat, poss a kryptonite 1.5M one, for out and about, as for the home dilemma I wasnt ready for that one so all the extra cost is gonna set me back a bit but probs gonna go for the shed shackle anchor thingy and a 'Sold secure' chain 2 M with a Cisa shutter lock as we use these locks at work on the shop front shutter and they are bl**dy good and well made.......

    So ta muchly guys n gals, keep pushing the pedals and the heart rates !!!!!!! :wink: :shock: :)
    Still loving my Carrera Vulcan but also loving my commuter converted Raleigh Record Sprint ooo it's so quick and a great commute hack yippeee get to ride it again in the morning . . . . . can't wait ha ha