Marion Jones sentence- harsh or fair?
Marion Jones has been jailed for 6 months for lying to federal prosecutors regarding doping. Harsh or fair? Does anyone think this will dissuade cyclists caught doping from pursuing ridiculous appeals?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/11/jones.doping/index.html
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/11/jones.doping/index.html
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No it won't deter cyclists from doping because very few doping cases ever end up in a criminal court. Marion Jones was convicted of perjury, not using banned drugs - the fact that she admitted using steroids was of secondary importance to the actual case.0
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This may tip the scales in favour of the people trying to clean up all sports against performance enhancing drugs in sport. Lying and denial will be exposed eventually.
I think this is a positive step and I have no sympathy for her.0 -
I think all this sentence says is "When the badge says FBI, don't lie". Martha Stewart learned a little something about that, too. It really hasn't deterred her admirers, whom you'd imagine have stricter morals than hardcore track fans. I think this is a very just sentence, as it's purely federal law being acted out. It really has nothing to do with the "Fight on Doping"(TM), though. Whatever you may be talking about with them, don't lie to FBI agents! And I doubt this will stop NBC from airing touchy-feely capsules about her with grandiose symphonic music in the background during the next Olympics. I'd love to be proven wrong there.0
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Fair, and I think it will be a reasonable deterrent. If not, just racking up the sentence for the next couple of offenders will do the trick.0
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Jail sentences are the way to go....Marion Jones should serve as a reminder to other famous American sportsmen we know well...you'll go to jail if you deny0
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rdaviesb wrote:Fair, and I think it will be a reasonable deterrent. If not, just racking up the sentence for the next couple of offenders will do the trick.
Lying Cow........oh they struck out my word .... bi....t...ch (try that)
I think it was an untruth in a Court room and therefore called contempt of court.
Tell the FBI and police any lies you like ( I've learned that is what I should have done) as you can say "Not Guilty" in the courtroom even if it is a lie.
What I pray for is that Carl Lewis gets caught. (even lindford christie)Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
yes I think the more serious offence was lying in Court not the drugs offence. :?0
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I don't think it will be a good deterrent in the same way that jail or even the death sentence is not a real deterrent to crime.
Quite simply, no one believes they will ever be caught.
Having said that, the only deterrent I believe might have a chance of working is if an Athlete has a clause in their contract with team and sponsors that they must pay back a significant portion of their earnings if found to be doping. Implementing this however is a pipe dream as would be legally extremely difficult to enforce.0 -
The worrying bit is that she's passed every dope test she's taken, so she's being banged-up for perjury rather than doping.
Her use of illegal performance-enhancing substances has always been believed since her previous husband got testedpositive for steroids.
Her programme was obviously better than his! :roll:Remember that you are an Englishman and thus have won first prize in the lottery of life.0 -
Actually, her sentence was based on two charges.
1. She committed perjury in giving evidence during the Balco case
2. she was involved in a cheque fraud/counterfeiting scheme
The Court wasn't really bothered about the doping offences since the real offences were actually a lot more serious. So yes, she deserved all she got and her legal fees will prob. be enormous. But, 6 months inside and then tears on Oprah, a best selling book and a regular slot on TV at athletics meets and she'll be back in businessM.Rushton0 -
Well, maybe, but her reputation is in tatters worldwide - considering she was the darling of the athletic world that's quite a fall.0
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Dave_1 wrote:Jail sentences are the way to go....Marion Jones should serve as a reminder to other famous American sportsmen we know well...you'll go to jail if you deny
If it's a legal thing getting a conviction will be even more difficult than it is now. Some lawyers who had a look at the Landis case in some legal journal in the US said it wouldn't stand up in a court of law. Fine for an ADA case but legally probably wouldn't even get to trial.
Maybe that's what needs to happen to get everyone to up their game.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0