what is campy and campag?

gundersen
gundersen Posts: 586
edited December 2007 in Workshop
I have Campagnolo on 3 bikes but don't know what campy and campag are. Do they have any connection?

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  • Rob Sallnow
    Rob Sallnow Posts: 6,279
    It's the shortened name that Americans (Campy) and Brits (Campag) call it....I suggest Australians follow the British lead rather than the Americans on this!! :lol:
    I'd rather walk than use Shimano
  • gundersen
    gundersen Posts: 586
    does that mean that yanks call Shimano - shimmy and brits call it shiman?
  • willbevan
    willbevan Posts: 1,241
    em now im a shimano man (well campag chainset lol) but the only 'loving' name I hear for shimano, is crapmano or s**tmano :oops: from brits lol
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  • ademort
    ademort Posts: 1,924
    Campagnolo is the Rolls Royce of cycling eqipment.
    Shimano is fine,but only for those who will settle for second best.
    ademort
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  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    ademort wrote:
    Campagnolo is the Rolls Royce of cycling eqipment.
    Shimano is fine,but only for those who will settle for second best.

    Yeah, whatever.
    Funny how Campag users keep harping on at this, they must be trying desperately hard to convince somebody....


    What amuses me is 'Campagnola', which you see periodically
    (e.g. Fibrax make replacement 'Campagnola' brakepads)
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    The new Raleigh website talks about Campagnola too.

    I really dont think there is any significant difference between the two makers - you'll never lose a race due to your choice of groupset. Seems a bit childish to throw names around.
  • pliptrot
    pliptrot Posts: 582
    Campagnolo make bike bits, and their following (and the adulation received) remains undiminished despite previous howlers (SGR pedals, Campagnolo off-road stuff) and the obvious continuing assault on choice and quality (without relieving our pockets). It is a company which learned quickly the power of marketing over good design (Which Suntour didn't). The Americans call it Campy (bless them, 4 syllables are just too much), and well, it's a European company, so that adds to the kudos. Brits call it Campag. giving it a gritty overtone of hard riding no-nonsense gear which doesn't waste time with such frippery as indexed gearing and derailleurs (front and rear mechs to you, squire) which work well.

    How things have changed. Take a dog turd, write Campagnolo down the side, and watch what an excellent product it will become.
  • Smokin Joe
    Smokin Joe Posts: 2,706
    pliptrot wrote:
    Campagnolo make bike bits, and their following (and the adulation received) remains undiminished despite previous howlers (SGR pedals, Campagnolo off-road stuff) and the obvious continuing assault on choice and quality (without relieving our pockets). It is a company which learned quickly the power of marketing over good design (Which Suntour didn't). The Americans call it Campy (bless them, 4 syllables are just too much), and well, it's a European company, so that adds to the kudos. Brits call it Campag. giving it a gritty overtone of hard riding no-nonsense gear which doesn't waste time with such frippery as indexed gearing and derailleurs (front and rear mechs to you, squire) which work well.

    How things have changed. Take a dog junk, write Campagnolo down the side, and watch what an excellent product it will become.
    Well, I'd prefer to step on a nice firm Campag Richard The Third than a squishy Shimano one anyday. At least the Campag one wouldn't splatt all over your trouser legs.
  • pliptrot
    pliptrot Posts: 582
    To indicate my poor judgement -or indeed poor taste- I have 3 road bikes, 2 of which are Campag exclusively. My vitriol about Vicenza is that they charge 3 times what Shimano do for their rear derailleurs. Derailleurs are -by any measure- crude and inelegant devices. Given that Campag Record and Super-Record (pre slant parallelogram) rear mechs were noted to be lousy bits of kit, and Campag dismissed index shifting when Shimano were on on the ascent, that's ironic. And taking the p*#s, IMHO.
  • willbevan
    willbevan Posts: 1,241
    willbevan wrote:
    em now im a shimano man (well campag chainset lol) but the only 'loving' name I hear for shimano, is crapmano or s**tmano :oops: from brits lol

    dam wish i hadn't said anything :S
    Road - BTwin Sport 2 16s
    MTB - Trek Fuel 80
    TT - Echelon

    http://www.rossonwye.cyclists.co.uk/
  • Shadowduck
    Shadowduck Posts: 845
    Heh, I love threads like this. Replace "Shimano" with "Microsoft" and "Campagnolo" with "Macintosh" and it could be any geek message board...

    As a Linux man, I guess I should be using SRAM?
    Even if the voices aren't real, they have some very good ideas.
  • fast as fupp
    fast as fupp Posts: 2,277
    Shadowduck wrote:
    Heh, I love threads like this. Replace "Shimano" with "Microsoft" and "Campagnolo" with "Macintosh" and it could be any geek message board...

    As a Linux man, I guess I should be using SRAM?

    nail on head mr duck :D (typed on mac whilst gazing lovingly at my dura-ace equipped bike)
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  • pliptrot
    pliptrot Posts: 582
    Shadowduck: spot-on! The big difference, of course, is that the blue screen of death is replaced by the red mist of inadequate lung capacity, and we endure the latter for fun, whereas the use of PC & Macs is firmly in the earning-a-crust category. And other people pay for this machine, so I'd better get my nose on that stone.

    Here's wishing all forumites a very happy, dry, safe and warm new year. May your punctures be few.
  • peanut
    peanut Posts: 1,373
    can't resist stirring it . :wink: I have both Campig and shimmy on my bike they work together fine. :wink::D
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    andy_wrx wrote:
    ademort wrote:
    Campagnolo is the Rolls Royce of cycling eqipment.
    Shimano is fine,but only for those who will settle for second best.

    Yeah, whatever.
    Funny how Campag users keep harping on at this, they must be trying desperately hard to convince somebody....


    What amuses me is 'Campagnola', which you see periodically
    (e.g. Fibrax make replacement 'Campagnola' brakepads)

    Too true Andy.
    Little men always have the biggest mouths.Something to do with overcompensation.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Shadowduck wrote:
    Heh, I love threads like this. Replace "Shimano" with "Microsoft" and "Campagnolo" with "Macintosh" and it could be any geek message board...

    As a Linux man, I guess I should be using SRAM?

    Ah but SRAM has the inter compatibility with shimano, that linux lacks with microsoft products.
    I like bikes...

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  • pliptrot
    pliptrot Posts: 582
    Campig; that's what I'm calling it from now on.
  • Shadowduck
    Shadowduck Posts: 845
    redddraggon wrote:
    Ah but SRAM has the inter compatibility with shimano, that linux lacks with microsoft products.
    I have an MS mouse and keyboard, they work fine with Linux. :P
    Even if the voices aren't real, they have some very good ideas.
  • Rob Sallnow
    Rob Sallnow Posts: 6,279
    pliptrot wrote:
    To indicate my poor judgement -or indeed poor taste- I have 3 road bikes, 2 of which are Campag exclusively. My vitriol about Vicenza is that they charge 3 times what Shimano do for their rear derailleurs. .

    They made up for it by charging far more for their shift levers than Campag did....the difference only came down when Campag started making them with cartbon fibre blades.
    I'd rather walk than use Shimano

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