Marchisio Cassettes?

Ken Night

mercsport wrote:

BTW , ....- here's a photo of the Marchisio cassette I built a few months ago . http://picasaweb.google.com/f.bruce.mil ... 0595183090[/url]

Among all the pics of your Litespeed-I enjoyed those too

With regard to the age/gearing, I've found I have never spun out using 50-13 on sportifs, I figure if I get up to 35mph I can stop pedalling

If I get dropped, it's not the gearing!

FWIW, I've now gone to 46/34, 12-27....in Marchisio

46-12 being the same as 50-13

mercsport

Sorry about the link , I thought it would've whipped you straight into the relevant pic. . Just tried it and sure enough : the whole ruddy lot ! Glad you enjoyed the others though .
' Old and feeble ' , aye , that's me alright . 61 and counting . Never been a racer , just enjoy being on a bike . Enjoy the tech. too .
I live in Saddleworth and my local run outs are usually up and over the hills around here , quite a few of you will know the area well . I consider myself a plodder when it comes to pedalling yet I frequently spin out when I'm descending after a 'plod' up a hill here . They average a couple to five miles or so one side or another , and a rise of 1000' or so from valley bottom . 60mph has been known and 50mph isn't uncommon ( but , I seem to be putting on the stops more often nowadays as fear of unintended consequences enters my head more often ). 35-40mph is usual if the breeze is neutral . Yes , it's easy enough to spin out here . Even along the village high street near to home here , and the traffic appears to be crawling and I'm forced to use the stops the 11 sometimes seems 'too fast' .
I'm quite surprised that the consensus here seems to be that an 11 is ' pushing it a bit ' .

Raph

I got the two BBB cassettes in the post, and mixed'n'matched them. As for quality, they're not as slick and jewel-like as campag or shimano, but then they weren't as expensive either, and only time will tell if they're as hard-wearing.

It's on my tourer that I find I have the weirdest gearing - well, it seems sensible to me, but I can't find sensible cassettes. It weighs probably over 30lb and currently has an Ultegra 14-25 and I find I rarely use the top two gears, in fact I'm sure I won't use them at all if I load it up and go on a proper trek, so I've got a BBB 12-28 and a 16-24, so between the two I've got the 16-17-18-19-20-21-22-24-28 that I was after. Total cost was £42 inc post. I'm not bothering to put it on the bike until I do load it up for a tour so I can't vouch for its longevity.

Unless you're racing, why bother to pedal down steep hills when you're doing over 40mph anyway? It seems to me that the industry is keen not to insult anyone with woofty gears that might suggest one is less than completely masculine... whereas I'm not sure the gearing is the measure of that. In my case the dainty pink tutu is what gives it away, not the ratios on the cassette.

aracer

Raph wrote:

Unless you're racing, why bother to pedal down steep hills when you're doing over 40mph anyway?

Because I can - and because it means you can keep your heart rate up on the downhills when you're going out riding for training. Though actually at 40mph I would be tucked - it's around 35mph where 53-13 or 50-12 starts getting a bit low, and I still like to pedal.

Raph

"I still like to pedal."

I just "freewheel-pedal" so as to keep moving - I just don't bother going at it like a horny rabbit. Plenty of opportunity for that on the ups.

Actually on second thoughts on short rides I do push it down hills, but I still give up around the 30mph mark. The way I look at it is that I prefer to get the gearing I use most of the time exactly right rather than make any concessions to situations that only happen for a tiny fraction of each ride - it would be nice to have 11 and 12 sprockets just for the fun of the odd downhill burn-up, but if not when it means having to have bigger gaps furher up. When they come up with the 15-speed cassette (and I'm sure they will!) I'll probably got for the 11T top...

synchronicity

I haven't been bothered to read 3 pages of replies, but I owned a 12-21 straight block Aviotek cassette from Marchisio... and promptly took it off & sold it on ebay. In the last 12 years, I've never seen a poorer-shifting cassette.

The teeth are not stamped or machined anywhere but are 'twisted' instead of providing tooth ramps; maybe that has something to do with it?

mercsport

Ramping is considered with the Marchisio . On the face of it a plain stamping , but it's a little more subtle than that for, aside from twist , there is profile there too . Study this Pic. : http://picasaweb.google.com/f.bruce.mil ... 0595183090
( I haven't learned to bury the link within a word yet . Apologies )
Maybe I'm an insensitive type but I really can't detect any difference in indexing or slickness of shift between the Campag. block and the Aviotek . I confess that the Campag. offering looks a heap better , and is a joy to behold , but I managed to lose teeth on two Record blocks within the space of a year . Additionally the Aviotek doesn't appear to want to wear out , and the facility with which you can prat about with ratio's is nice .

Ken Night

For sale

Left over from earlier project

Aviotek old style sprockets (can be used for Shimano or Campag with the appropriate carriers)

14 (not start), 16, 18,

30-Campag 9/10 specific

8 Campag spacers and carriers

£25 posted, the lot

aracer

Raph wrote:

The way I look at it is that I prefer to get the gearing I use most of the time exactly right rather than make any concessions to situations that only happen for a tiny fraction of each ride - it would be nice to have 11 and 12 sprockets just for the fun of the odd downhill burn-up, but if not when it means having to have bigger gaps furher up.

But then i don't need as low gears as you seem to - for most of my riding 39/23 is low enough, hence I can use a 12-23 with my 53-39 without any awkard big gaps (or 11-23 with 50-34 on my new bike for a lower bottom gear than I generally use).

synchronicity

mercsport wrote:

Ramping is considered with the Marchisio . On the face of it a plain stamping , but it's a little more subtle than that for, aside from twist , there is profile there too . Study this Pic. : http://picasaweb.google.com/f.bruce.mil ... 0595183090
( I haven't learned to bury the link within a word yet . Apologies )

You need to do this:
<url=http://picasaweb.google.com/f.bruce.mills/LitespeedBuildUp/photo#5154629500595183090>click here</url>
(but replace the angled brackets with square ones)

Here's the result:
click here

Or better, directly link to the picture:
click here

(on some forums you also need to insert the url link between quotes, like this: "http://picasaweb.google.com/f.bruce.mills/LitespeedBuildUp/photo#5154629500595183090&quot;

mrushton

proto wrote:

This thread is making me feel very old and feeble

How on earth do you guys manage to push an 11 tooth sprocket? That would be way overgeared for me, and I suspect for just about everybody below pro/elite standard. I came to the conclusion that I could even live without the 12 for the very few times I'd ever use it (steep downhill and following wind), so opted for the 13/26 Chorus route with 50/34 chainset.

If you're racing then your needs may be different but a 122" gear is massive, really huge. Kids must be getting bigger, not so long ago 108" (52/13) was considered 'a big gear'.

Anyone can fit an 11 sprocket, but it's how often it's used that matters. i think it's safe to say a lot of people delude themselves about gearing thinking they need an 11 tooth sprocket. An advantage is that you get a nice change if you use a compact c-set,. Interestingly 48/11 gives a larger gear than 52/12

redddraggon

I'm a grinder - so I'll go slower with a 11t than spinner with a 11t - assuming same chainrings.

I'm quite happy going along at 23mph on the flat (it does happen sometimes) with the 11t and 50t chainring. If I need to go faster I'll just spin a bit faster, but I'm comfortable at the lower cadences - therefore (I'd say) I need the higher gears.

Of course I'm not often at 23mph on the flat, and don't use the 11t that much. The same could be said of the lower gears - I live in a hilly area and get away with a 36/23 on my commuting bike. On my better bike I've got 34/25, do I really need the lower gears? Of course not, but the low gears might come in handy, just as the higher gears might come in handy.

I'm not really bothered about the cassette spacings, the range is more important to me - I can adjust my cadence to suit the gears.

mercsport

Apologies to all in advance for the tutorial within this thread but I need it !

"You need to do this:
<url=http://picasaweb.google.com/f.bruce.mills/LitespeedBuildUp/photo#5154629500595183090>click here</url>
(but replace the angled brackets with square ones)

Here's the result:
click here

Or better, directly link to the picture:
click here

(on some forums you also need to insert the url link between quotes, like this: "http://picasaweb.google.com/f.bruce.mills/LitespeedBuildUp/photo#5154629500595183090&quot; "

Leslie , thanks for your attempt to help this dunce , but I'm still stuffed . I can't seem to be able to crack it . When I click the URL tag the brackets are automatically squared . I insert the text infront of the last bracketed [url] but it still comes up as the long URL . I highlight the text : same thing . I copy exactly what you gave as an example : ditto . I'm confounded !
On another forum that I use I just highlight the text , click the url tag , hit ctrl V, and the url gets buried in the text . Obviously I'm doing something wrong here .
And how in heck do you get it to link straight to the picture only !! ?[/url]

redddraggon

Is done using this:



.......^ see the space between img and ] ? remove it, and the link will work

My Black and Red Stealth Machine

is done using this:

My Black and Red Stealth Machine

.............................................................................................................................................................................................^ remove this space and it'll work.

Don't add any more

redddraggon

Oops...after a few problems got that last post edited and sorted.

redddraggon

Is done using this:



.......^ see the space between img and ] ? remove it, and the link will work

My Black and Red Stealth Machine

is done using this:

My Black and Red Stealth Machine

.............................................................................................................................................................................................^ remove this space and it'll work.

Don't add any more

Ken Night

Lauteret

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add a square bracket after the second "url"

oh Reddragon edited his text and beat me to it-easily

mercsport

Nope !
WTF am I doing wrong ? It's meant to be 'live' on the preview isn't it ? Well , it doesn't appear to work for me upto now .
I see the spaces pointed to before the brackets , but there aren't any spaces to close when I click URL.
What's the procedure here ? I'm banging in a sentence and I want to bury a picture within a word : for example HERE .
What do I do when I want to type in HERE ? type it then highlight it ? then click URL ? click the URL then type HERE within the url ? Click URLinsert the url I have then click URL again to close it ?
I'm sure I've tried these permutations but I wonder ?
Thanks all for your interest in this side issue to the thread .
Ken : I tried but , no , 'nowt happened . RedDragon : Great looking bike . I love the big chunky carbon cloth there . Fast !
You'll be pleased to know I've just got back from a rare ride out . Yes , wet , and the wind was ferocious . Torture !

redddraggon

If you copy exactly what I wrote previously and just removed the spaces it would work. You don't need to add any more tags.

To get text linking to an URL:

[img=ENTER THE TEXT YOU WANT HERE]ENTER YOUR REQUIRED URL IN HERE[/img]

To view pic in thread

[img][/img]ENTER%20URL%20IN%20HERE

No Spaces This Time, just swap the red text with your required text/hyperlinks.

Ken Night

mercsport wrote:

Nope !
WTF am I doing wrong ? It's meant to be 'live' on the preview isn't it ? Well , it doesn't appear to work for me upto now .!

where are you trying to post your pics from?

I use photobucket....and the codes are below the pics in the albums

[IMG]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a121/KenNight/France July 06/Etape06016.jpg[/IMG with the extra bracket outputs[/img]

aracer

Somebody give me a nudge if you start discussing cassettes again!

mercsport

[url]C:\Documents and Settings\Chris Lewis\My Documents\My Pictures\Bikes\08082007029.jpg[/url]

[img]C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\Chris%20Lewis\My%20Documents\My%20Pictures\Bikes\08082007029.jpg[/img]

It doesn't show live in preview , but will post anyway . See what happens .
I'll call it a draw now and say ' bugger it' , it's not worth the hassle and it's p'ing everyone off now . Don't blame'em .
Thanks all .

acorn_user

Miche is the way to go for the cassette.

http://www.miche.it/home.html

They sell the cogs separately, and they are not too dear. You should be able to find a 12-27 around somewhere.

The Marchisio might be a little lighter though. Miche also make Supertype cassettes which are lightweight, but expensive.

I would consider a 13-29 Campag cassette too.

synchronicity

mercsport wrote:

[url]C:\Documents and Settings\Chris Lewis\My Documents\My Pictures\Bikes\08082007029.jpg[/url]

[img][/img]C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\Chris%20Lewis\My%20Documents\My%20Pictures\Bikes\08082007029.jpg

It doesn't show live in preview , but will post anyway . See what happens .
I'll call it a draw now and say ' bugger it' , it's not worth the hassle and it's p'ing everyone off now . Don't blame'em .
Thanks all .

You can't link it to the files on your local hard disc drive. It has to be on a file server so we can all see it.