Erm, need a bit of help choosing bikes....please :D [edited]

VampzX

Hey,

Just joined this forum, literally.

Anyway, erm, getting into this MTB thing and i've been doing some research on the bikes i like, haven't cycled in like 2 years so nothing to flashy but yeh i'm planning on trying out some street TRIAL biking just because it looks so unbelievably kewl.

So yeh, i'm just looking for some bog standard entry level street/ trial/ bikes under £300, which i cud ride on all day.
would appreciate some advice and opinions on the bikes below:

Diamond Back Beta - http://www.nationalcycles.co.uk/advance ... +back+beta

Diamond Back Groove - http://www.nationalcycles.co.uk/diamond ... -jump.html

Mongoose Fireball 26 - http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.a ... ike%202008

Mongoose Tyax Elite 2007 - http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.a ... N=Mongoose Tyax Elite Mountain Bike 2007

Raleigh Meathead 2008 - http://www.nationalcycles.co.uk/raleigh ... -2008.html

Saracen X-ray 2005 - http://www.evanscycles.com/product.jsp?style=5393

GT Tempest 3 2008 - http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDeta ... ctID=13357

GT Chucker 3.0 2007 - http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDeta ... ctID=11276

So yeah, would appreciate any help and advice. Got some advice from my mate onlinetsr, also the guy who told me about this forum but would like more advice if possible.

Cheers

Ciaran500

The first 4 bikes are dirt jump bikes. Not really suitable for trails.

This is a good place to start http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12540401

BlackSpur

VampzX wrote:

So yeh, i'm just looking for some bog standard entry level trial/xc bikes under £300.

I don't think there is such a thing as a trail/xc bike, they are completely different (although I am sure someone more knowledgeable will probrably come along and prove me wrong). First, you will need to decide which of the sort you want. If an XC bike, the What Bike thread st the top lists the ones you should look out for. If you want a trails bike, look here: http://www.bikeradar.com/road/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1574012

dirtbiker100

that mongoose tyax elite has had may a good word spoken about it on here. out of your list thats what i'd get

supersonic

Are we talking TRIALS or TRAILS?!

VampzX

no, erm i meant like street trial biking soz

Ciaran500

Of all them the Mongoose Tyax is the only trail bike there so I'd go for that one.

supersonic

XC and trail riding are closely linked - but people have different interpretations. XC tend to be shorter travel, steeper, racier bikes.

Many of the bikes you list or dirt jump bikes - totally unsuitable for riding general trails. As above, the tyax is the only real bike for this purpose. Check the What Bike thread for more options, and do test the bike out/

onlinetsr

http://www.pinnacle-bikes.co.uk/Bike-Ra ... entId=1257 if you want a more jump style bike
http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=32576 if you want a bike to do most things and the tyax is a good option too.

fred1

what about the Giant STP 2

supersonic

Again, more of a jump bike than xc/trail bike.

the mvps

I think we are all missing the point here !!

He wants a TRIALS bike not a trail bike !!

Don't know anything about them - but have seen a couple of vids on you tube of a guy called Danny something or other. very impressive !

supersonic

Oh, the guy has edited it now, I asked him to clarify and he said TRAIL bike!!! Now its trials...

BlackSpur

Again, I believe streen and trials are two different types of riding. A street bike looks like this: http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/ebwPNLqrymode.a4p?f_ProductID=7602&f_SortOrderID=1
and a trials bike looks like this:
http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?id=2147
Please be more specific in what type of bike you want.

onlinetsr

BlackSpur wrote:

Again, I believe streen and trials are two different types of riding. A street bike looks like this: http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/ebwPNLqrymode.a4p?f_ProductID=7602&f_SortOrderID=1
and a trials bike looks like this:
http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?id=2147
Please be more specific in what type of bike you want.

Yes they are two different types of riding but that is not to say that you cannot get a bike to do both. Most street bikes are versatile enough to do some trials on if setup right. Don't know whether you remember the mbuk edition featuring Hans Rey and his street/trials bike?

chilled rider

http://www.dmrbikes.com/?Section=products&pageType=category&category=1&categoryName=Bikes

Maybe a bike in the above link is more appropriate for you

http://www.dmrbikes.com/?Section=products&pageType=category&category=7&categoryName=Frames

Then check out the frames that go with bikes for their suitability, click on usage to see a chart that covers the frames strengths and weakness's.

Enjoy

batch78

Not sure this guys quite as talented as Hans though. Would be best to get something swaying closer to a trials bike if thats what you want to do (who knows by this stage of thread though!) to make it easier for you to progress and enjoy the discipline. And whats happening is everyone getting soft on here no abuse to poster for text talk and general incoherance, im concerned.

onlinetsr

Yeah i see your point but he says he wants a street/trials bike and surley it's alot easier to ride street and beginner trials on a street bike than it is to ride trials and street on a bike with no saddle or higher gears if you get what im tryin to say lol