Shimano R700 / Ultegra SL - Chainset/BB Compatible?

kmahony
kmahony Posts: 380
edited December 2007 in Workshop
Hi,

I have an R700 compact chainset and bottom bracket.
If I got an Ultegra SL compact chainset without the BB, would I be able to simply change the chainset on the existing BB? If possible, would this be a simple job?

thanks

Comments

  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    Last time I looked the R700 is a hollowtech 2 chainset with integrated bottom bracket. Maybe some one will correct me if I am wrong.
    Also the ultegra SL is hollowtech2 with integrated B.
  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    yes, all the HT2 BBs are interchangeable AFAIK

    you can also use:

    FSA
    RaceFace
    Acros (ceramic)
    Superstar
    etc.

    but not the Truvativ/GXP ones
    Facts are meaningless, you can use facts to prove anything that's remotely true! - Homer
  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    Silly question, how do you remove the BB from the crank arm if it is integrated?
  • kmahony
    kmahony Posts: 380
    Silly question, how do you remove the BB from the crank arm if it is integrated?

    That's what I was thinking, but then I noticed they sell them without the bottom bracket??
  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    it's the crank arm and axle that is integrated (attached), not the BB cups
    Facts are meaningless, you can use facts to prove anything that's remotely true! - Homer
  • So, FSA hollowtech type cranks and Shimano have identical diameters?
    Excellent news, I was thinking of getting an FSA compact and I currently run 10 Dura Ace. That saves me hassle when swapping between the two.
  • I just looked on the FSA website, and it suggests that FSA cups are not compatible across it's range, with specific BB cups for each.

    Are they taking the mick?
  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    Shimano sometimes say the same, and that's a load of cr@p

    I've not tried it on roadie chainsets but for mtb c/sets the cups are interchangeable AFAIK.
    Facts are meaningless, you can use facts to prove anything that's remotely true! - Homer
  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    I assumed in OP that he asked could he keep BB which is actually integrated.
    I realise you can keep the cups but thats not what I understood to be the question :D
    So I guess he needs to use the original "cups" :D and fit new crank arm and rings with integrated bottom bracket :D
  • kmahony
    kmahony Posts: 380
    I assumed in OP that he asked could he keep BB which is actually integrated.
    I realise you can keep the cups but thats not what I understood to be the question :D
    So I guess he needs to use the original "cups" :D and fit new crank arm and rings with integrated bottom bracket :D

    Yes, I think my question was probably wrong, but I think I understand now.

    To confirm:
    The BB Cups can be left on, but the chainset comes with the internal part of the BB attached?
    Even if it's described as:
    "Does not include the bottom bracket, these are purchased seperately and depend on your frame's BB threads"

    If I just change the chainset (not the BB cups) , is this an easy job?

    thanks
  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    it's straighhtforward. Undo bolts, remove non-driveside crank arm and gently tap the old crank/axle out. Fit new crank in reverse order.

    The main thing is to preload the bearings and do up the pinch bolts properly. Read the instructions. They specify a torque setting and tightening method. Stick to that and they'll be fine.
    Facts are meaningless, you can use facts to prove anything that's remotely true! - Homer