Light weight five inch hardtail frame

crashtestdummy12

Hi guys,
I'm thinking of getting a new frame and idealy I would like to keep it as light as possible while keeping my five inch fork.

I was looking at a maxlight xc>120until I noticed that it has a semi-integrated headset and i've just bought a standard hope headset

My LBS recomended an orange P7 but I am a bit worried about the weight of it :?
Any thoughts much appreciated,
Tim

Splasher

Why not take your headset back and swap it for a Hope semi-integrated?

Sir HC

Budget ?

Steel or Alu ?

Dr_Death

Titanium......

Cotic??

Splasher

crashtestdummy12 wrote:

I was looking at a maxlight xc>120until I noticed that it has a semi-integrated headset and i've just bought a standard hope headset

My LBS recomended an orange P7 but I am a bit worried about the weight of it :?
Any thoughts much appreciated,
Tim

One thing that's occurs to me is that an XC>120 frame AND a new headset costs less than a P7!

Anyway, if you want a steel frame I'd go with a Handjob over P7

fly4fun

santa cruz chameleon?

ride_whenever

How strong is the handjob?

I am looking at getting a new bike for AM/trail riding. Ideally with roughly 140mm travel because at times with 100mm things got a little worrying and I was left wishing for a little more. Would the stiffee/chameleon be a better idea for an AM hardtail?

GT Destroyer

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... highlight=

The above thread was a big discussion about the P7 and the sub-zero, and some other frames. 3 pages of good stuff, it might help you out a bit?

dave_hill

ride_whenever wrote:

How strong is the handjob?

I am looking at getting a new bike for AM/trail riding. Ideally with roughly 140mm travel because at times with 100mm things got a little worrying and I was left wishing for a little more. Would the stiffee/chameleon be a better idea for an AM hardtail?

Cove Handjobs are one of the best mass-produced cro-mo steel frames out there, you shouldn't have any worries with one. The Stiffee is also a corking frame, but they can be pretty unforgiving - I'd think twice before getting one as an all-day bike.

dave_hill

crashtestdummy12 wrote:

Hi guys,
I'm thinking of getting a new frame and idealy I would like to keep it as light as possible while keeping my five inch fork.

I was looking at a maxlight xc>120until I noticed that it has a semi-integrated headset and i've just bought a standard hope headset

My LBS recomended an orange P7 but I am a bit worried about the weight of it :?
Any thoughts much appreciated,
Tim

On One 456? Reasonably light, will accept up to a 6" fork and a bargain at £149!

fly4fun

anyone got any comparisons between the on-one 456, santa cruz chaeleon and cove stiffee?

dawnophile

The P7 frame is great, and will turn it's hand to all sorts of different things. It isn't light, and if thats your priority i'd say a Cove Handjob or a Cotic Soul. My P7 comes in at about 28.5lbs, and a mate of mine has a very similarly set up Handjob (albeit with lighter rims) and is about 26.5lbs. The Cotic Soul weighs 4.2lbs for the frame if i'm not mistaken, and can be built up light if that's your thing. The Cotic is 853 steel, the 'job is columbus tubing. I'd say the Cotic is the tougher frame.
If you're going to buy a frame and not a complete bike, you might as well go for something a little different (and pimpy).

fly4fun

im looking for frame only. what would you say is 'defferent and pimpy' - kinesis pha5e?

crashtestdummy12

What about the Cotic Soul

fly4fun

Bfe is too hardcore - tad heavy. Im not sure if the soul is harcore enough...if compared to something like the chameleon which hits me as something in the middle. The pha5e is not an all day machine...