Botero to Rock and Republic
According to Cyclingnews Botero is off to R&R for 2008.
I wonder what their DS Mr Andreau makes of that? If he's got a beef with doping and didn't just make anti-Armstrong statements to shut his wife up, surely he must resign?
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I wonder what their DS Mr Andreau makes of that? If he's got a beef with doping and didn't just make anti-Armstrong statements to shut his wife up, surely he must resign?
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Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
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The more I read about this team the more I dislike the whole set-up. Shame, their kit's kinda groovy-- Dirk Hofman Motorhomes --0
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Agreed, nice kit, awful ethics...0
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Are they the new Team Evil TM?0
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iainf72 wrote:That's gotta be LPR.
Rock and Republic have a pantomime villain of an owner with a win at all costs mentality, have hired a Puerto renegade and have tattoos. That's got to make them the evilest?0 -
They're the anti-Slipstream.0
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andyp wrote:iainf72 wrote:That's gotta be LPR.
Good lord man. The last 3 have links to all the dodgy doctors of recent years and look at their results in the Giro. 2 of the last 3 winner and a guy who came 2nd in the year neither of them won.
And they're Swiss. All the best evil teams are Swiss. Phonak / Astana.
R&R are more like a yobbish team.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
andyp wrote:Are they the new Team Evil TM?
What about Astana MkII (or MkIII I suppose)? Then again I suppose they have got a new anti-doping scheme and got rid of all the bad eggs haven't they0 -
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And they're Swiss. All the best evil teams are Swiss. Phonak / Astana.
Agreed. It must have something to do with the ready availabilty of mountain lairs.It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
If ethics is anywhere on your list of priorities when it comes to cycling teams, you really shouldn't be a Rock & Republic fan to begin with. I find the signing kind of weird, as I can only imagine Botero getting his arse whupped on the US crit circuit. That alone will get me out to races R&R go to that are within driving distance.0
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I think R&Rs "USP" is to present the image that they are a bunch of hard-living, drug taking riders. The reality is that USADA will be all over them like a rash and the guys wouldn't get a chance to dope even if they wanted to. In any case I can't imagine there is sufficient contract and prize money on the US crit circuit to warrant sigining up to one of Michele Ferraris "sure it's only some intervals" training programmes.
If R&R had signed up a string of innocuous riders and had a CEO that didn't make such daft statements, we wouldn't have a thread about them. What was it Oscar Wilde said about the only thing worse than people taliking about you?'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'0 -
LangerDan wrote:What was it Oscar Wilde said about the only thing worse than people taliking about you?
Was it "People who cheat at sport"?
You have a good point. Trying to make yourself sound dodgy for marketing purposes is operating at a higher level though.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
But is it any worse than trying to make yourself sound whiter-than-white for marketing purposes, iain?Le Blaireau (1)0
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iainf72 wrote:LangerDan wrote:What was it Oscar Wilde said about the only thing worse than people taliking about you?
Was it "People who cheat at sport"?
You have a good point. Trying to make yourself sound dodgy for marketing purposes is operating at a higher level though.
Nothing novel about that. Keith Richards has actually spent the past 20 years living on a diet of Complan and Wurthers Originals.'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'0 -
LangerDan wrote:In any case I can't imagine there is sufficient contract and prize money on the US crit circuit to warrant sigining up to one of Michele Ferraris "sure it's only some intervals" training programmes.
You have clearly never seen the prize list of a big US crit. The culture is completely different to Euro road racing, but the purse up for grabs can sometimes make the minor classics pale in comparison. Good thing, as you are right on the money when it comes to contracts. US crits really have to be seen to be understood. It's a world apart. And the bad boy attitude of R&R resonates deeply with the criterium crowd.0