overtaking stopped buses - hazard

Porgy

Has anyone esle noticed this new phenomena? Bus stops at bus stop and all the vehicles behind the bus just keep going regardless of the oncoming traffic. If you are the oncoming traffic you're forced to stop or go into the bus lane. And that's in a car. On a bike - its bloody dangerous at times. One road that I used to use regularly on the Isle of Dogs the bus stop was on a sharp bend with parked cars. I'd go sailing round the bend only to come face to face with a car coming in the opposite direction on the wrong side of the road - and they didn;t stop when they saw me. Leaning out the window to tell me to fuck off - or beeping the horn, but not actually stopping. And then the same with the car behind and so on. I've tried to assert my right of way - but even when I succeed I get enormous amounts of abuse hurled at me.

Wghat should I do? Ride on the pavement?

spen666

Porgy wrote:

Has anyone esle noticed this new phenomena? Bus stops at bus stop ...:

i've not noticed that before :oops:

Clever Pun

Isle of dogs... you on one of the 2 main roads or in that maze of mini roads?

I use the Westferry road from the tunnel upwards and the traffic is fine there, no problems with people trying to crash their cars

Porgy

I don;t use it any more - but it was the main road from Greenwich tunnel around the west side up to Limehouse.

It's a nice clear fast road - so having to slow down on this bend was very annoying. Especially as I had right of way.

spen666

Porgy wrote:

I don;t use it any more - but it was the main road from Greenwich tunnel around the west side up to Limehouse.

It's a nice clear fast road - so having to slow down on this bend was very annoying. Especially as I had right of way.

you sound like a motorist

Porgy

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

I don;t use it any more - but it was the main road from Greenwich tunnel around the west side up to Limehouse.

It's a nice clear fast road - so having to slow down on this bend was very annoying. Especially as I had right of way.

you sound like a motorist

Apart from the me riding a bike bit eh? :roll:

spen666

Porgy wrote:

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

I don;t use it any more - but it was the main road from Greenwich tunnel around the west side up to Limehouse.

It's a nice clear fast road - so having to slow down on this bend was very annoying. Especially as I had right of way.

you sound like a motorist

Apart from the me riding a bike bit eh? :roll:

Erm the quote I highlighted is exactly the sort of remark a motorist makes. I know you were riding a bike, but you are exhibiting the same sort of self centred view that many motorists make - ie objecting to sharing road with others and complaining re anything slowing you down

Porgy

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

I don;t use it any more - but it was the main road from Greenwich tunnel around the west side up to Limehouse.

It's a nice clear fast road - so having to slow down on this bend was very annoying. Especially as I had right of way.

you sound like a motorist

Apart from the me riding a bike bit eh? :roll:

Erm the quote I highlighted is exactly the sort of remark a motorist makes. I know you were riding a bike, but you are exhibiting the same sort of self centred view that many motorists make - ie objecting to sharing road with others and complaining re anything slowing you down

Actually I wasn't - you were exhibiting a lack of abilty to read. PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THREAD OR KEEP YOUR POINTLESS REMARKS TO YOURSELF.

THANKYOU

spen666

Porgy wrote:

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

I don;t use it any more - but it was the main road from Greenwich tunnel around the west side up to Limehouse.

It's a nice clear fast road - so having to slow down on this bend was very annoying. Especially as I had right of way.

you sound like a motorist

Apart from the me riding a bike bit eh? :roll:

Erm the quote I highlighted is exactly the sort of remark a motorist makes. I know you were riding a bike, but you are exhibiting the same sort of self centred view that many motorists make - ie objecting to sharing road with others and complaining re anything slowing you down

Actually I wasn't - you were exhibiting a lack of abilty to read. PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THREAD OR KEEP YOUR POINTLESS REMARKS TO YOURSELF.

THANKYOU

Erm I haven't a clue what you are now bleating about.

I highlighted a quote you posted and said that particular comment sounded like a motorist would say. Are you now denying that you wrote the words in the post I quoted? Perhaps you've got a gremlin in your PC typing things for you.

Alternatively perhaps you don't like me pointing out that you are making the same sort of comments that some motorists make.

AidanR

In fairness, it is annoying when you have to slow down for something that shouldn't be there, whether on a bike or in a car. Of course, it's doubly annoying on a bike because you've got to work to get back up to speed rather than just move your right foot half an inch.

And really, who hasn't sworn at lights changing red in front of them? I do it half a dozen times a day!

you are exhibiting the same sort of self centred view that many motorists make - ie objecting to sharing road with others and complaining re anything slowing you down

That's not fair to the majority of motorists, nor to Porgy.

Porgy

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

I don;t use it any more - but it was the main road from Greenwich tunnel around the west side up to Limehouse.

It's a nice clear fast road - so having to slow down on this bend was very annoying. Especially as I had right of way.

you sound like a motorist

Apart from the me riding a bike bit eh? :roll:

Erm the quote I highlighted is exactly the sort of remark a motorist makes. I know you were riding a bike, but you are exhibiting the same sort of self centred view that many motorists make - ie objecting to sharing road with others and complaining re anything slowing you down

Actually I wasn't - you were exhibiting a lack of abilty to read. PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THREAD OR KEEP YOUR POINTLESS REMARKS TO YOURSELF.

THANKYOU

Erm I haven't a clue what you are now bleating about.

I highlighted a quote you posted and said that particular comment sounded like a motorist would say. Are you now denying that you wrote the words in the post I quoted? Perhaps you've got a gremlin in your PC typing things for you.

Alternatively perhaps you don't like me pointing out that you are making the same sort of comments that some motorists make.

It was a cheap and easy jibe to make - for no good reason - and not taking the subject of the thread into cosideration.

Fair enough - you want to make a few easy points. But I'm not accepting that your comemnt applies to me. I've been a cyclist for all my life - and have campaigned to reduce traffic. I've campaigned for cycling and walking in London. I do not personify that attitude that supposedly motorists have of utter selfishness on the road (not even when I drive a car).

Therefore when I do see motorists taking the pi.ss - ie impeding others' progress when they have no right - using 'might is right' and the fact that they are driving a heavy powerful metal box in order shove others out of the way - as described in the first posting of my thread - then I see a problem, not just for me, but for all cyclists. If we have rights of way then they need to be respected by all other roadusers, or we're finished before we start.

You tookone comment out of context and interpreted it as me being a selfish motorist in spirit if not in actuality.

I reject this. go and score your pathetic points elsewhere.

spen666

Porgy wrote:

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It was a cheap and easy jibe to make - for no good reason - and not taking the subject of the thread into cosideration.

Fair enough - you want to make a few easy points. But I'm not accepting that your comemnt applies to me.

Hmm lets get this clear- i make a comment relating specifically to something you posted- but you do not think it applies to you.

You are sounding even more like the motorists who complain about others behaviour whilst ignoring their own

I've been a cyclist for all my life - and have campaigned to reduce traffic. I've campaigned for cycling and walking in London. I do not personify that attitude that supposedly motorists have of utter selfishness on the road (not even when I drive a car).

Therefore when I do see motorists taking the pi.ss - ie impeding others' progress when they have no right - using 'might is right' and the fact that they are driving a heavy powerful metal box in order shove others out of the way - as described in the first posting of my thread - then I see a problem, not just for me, but for all cyclists. If we have rights of way then they need to be respected by all other roadusers, or we're finished before we start.

You tookone comment out of context and interpreted it as me being a selfish motorist in spirit if not in actuality.

I reject this. go and score your pathetic points elsewhere.

Sadly you are just reinforcing the point I made.

it is a society wide attitude of I'm right everyone else is wrong. Anyone that stops us doing what we want is to be condemned

Porgy

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

...
It was a cheap and easy jibe to make - for no good reason - and not taking the subject of the thread into cosideration.

Fair enough - you want to make a few easy points. But I'm not accepting that your comemnt applies to me.

Hmm lets get this clear- i make a comment relating specifically to something you posted- but you do not think it applies to you.

You are sounding even more like the motorists who complain about others behaviour whilst ignoring their own

I've been a cyclist for all my life - and have campaigned to reduce traffic. I've campaigned for cycling and walking in London. I do not personify that attitude that supposedly motorists have of utter selfishness on the road (not even when I drive a car).

Therefore when I do see motorists taking the pi.ss - ie impeding others' progress when they have no right - using 'might is right' and the fact that they are driving a heavy powerful metal box in order shove others out of the way - as described in the first posting of my thread - then I see a problem, not just for me, but for all cyclists. If we have rights of way then they need to be respected by all other roadusers, or we're finished before we start.

You tookone comment out of context and interpreted it as me being a selfish motorist in spirit if not in actuality.

I reject this. go and score your pathetic points elsewhere.

Sadly you are just reinforcing the point I made.

it is a society wide attitude of I'm right everyone else is wrong. Anyone that stops us doing what we want is to be condemned

What point - exactly - did you make?!?!?

You sound like a whiney old pedant with too much time on your hand.

Give it up eh?

spen666

Porgy wrote:

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You sound like a whiney old pedant with too much time on your hand.

Give it up eh?

You sound more and more like an idiot.

the type of idiot who distances himself from the comments that he posted?

The type of person who claims a comment made directly about what he posted is not related to him

The type of idiot who denies criticism directed at what he posted is anything to do with him

Porgy

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

...
You sound like a whiney old pedant with too much time on your hand.

Give it up eh?

You sound more and more like an idiot.

the type of idiot who distances himself from the comments that he posted?

The type of person who claims a comment made directly about what he posted is not related to him

The type of idiot who denies criticism directed at what he posted is anything to do with him

I only saw a pointless misdirected remark. #

Idiot!

hamboman

spen666, this is a perfect example of what happens when you take a quote out of context:

Darwin wrote: "To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."

The next sentence is then omitted by creationists: "Yet reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a perfect and complex eye to one very imperfect and simple, each grade being useful to its possessor, can be shown to exist; if further, the eye does vary ever so slightly, and the variations be inherited, which is certainly the case; and if any variation or modification in the organ be ever useful to an animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, can hardly be considered real. How a nerve comes to be sensitive to light, hardly concerns us more than how life itself first originated; but I may remark that several facts make me suspect that any sensitive nerve may be rendered sensitive to light, and likewise to those coarser vibrations of the air which produce sound."

tardington

Well yeeeeesss....

But 'Get a room, you two!" is shorter :twisted:

AidanR

Or my personal favourite:

spen666

hamboman wrote:

spen666, this is a perfect example of what happens when you take a quote out of context:

Darwin wrote: "To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."

The next sentence is then omitted by creationists: "Yet reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a perfect and complex eye to one very imperfect and simple, each grade being useful to its possessor, can be shown to exist; if further, the eye does vary ever so slightly, and the variations be inherited, which is certainly the case; and if any variation or modification in the organ be ever useful to an animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, can hardly be considered real. How a nerve comes to be sensitive to light, hardly concerns us more than how life itself first originated; but I may remark that several facts make me suspect that any sensitive nerve may be rendered sensitive to light, and likewise to those coarser vibrations of the air which produce sound."

Since when was Darwin/ Creationsim anything to do with this?

Edited to spare myself the blushes

secretsam

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

I don;t use it any more - but it was the main road from Greenwich tunnel around the west side up to Limehouse.

It's a nice clear fast road - so having to slow down on this bend was very annoying. Especially as I had right of way.

you sound like a motorist

Apart from the me riding a bike bit eh? :roll:

Erm the quote I highlighted is exactly the sort of remark a motorist makes. I know you were riding a bike, but you are exhibiting the same sort of self centred view that many motorists make - ie objecting to sharing road with others and complaining re anything slowing you down

Surely most of us possess a driving licence and (likely) a car?

FFS, it's the 21st Century, cars are with us and are not 100% evil

spen666

Porgy wrote:

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

...
You sound like a whiney old pedant with too much time on your hand.

Give it up eh?

You sound more and more like an idiot.

the type of idiot who distances himself from the comments that he posted?

The type of person who claims a comment made directly about what he posted is not related to him

The type of idiot who denies criticism directed at what he posted is anything to do with him

I only saw a pointless misdirected remark. #

Idiot!

Ahh

now we resort to repeated personal insults- nothing better to debate with?


The fact remains that

It's a nice clear fast road - so having to slow down on this bend was very annoying

is the sort of thing some motorists do say

AidanR

Since when was Darwin/ Creationsim anything to do with this?

Or is this a way of diverting attention from what you wrote and the specific point I quoted you on.

Wrong person. :roll:

To quote someone else on this thread:

PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THREAD OR KEEP YOUR POINTLESS REMARKS TO YOURSELF

:twisted:

Clever Pun

Porgy wrote:

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

I don;t use it any more - but it was the main road from Greenwich tunnel around the west side up to Limehouse.

It's a nice clear fast road - so having to slow down on this bend was very annoying. Especially as I had right of way.

you sound like a motorist

Apart from the me riding a bike bit eh? :roll:

yep that's the road, it's the bit on the little hill bit isn't it... both sides

I see what he's saying but he's ignoring the they're on your side of the road bit....

Porgy

Clever Pun wrote:

I see what he's saying but he's ignoring the they're on your side of the road bit....

I knew he was missing something :?

That road is downhill for quite a while so I get a bit of momentum up - and then I lose it immediately becasue I'm afraid of what might be round the corner having nearly hit an oncoming car on my side of the road several years ago.

Anyway - I don;t use that route now - my job has changed.

I've noticed this elsewhere - if a car needs to get round another stopped vehicle and allt that's in the way is a cyclist - guess who has to get out of the way? :roll:

manchita

Is it me or do a lot of bicycle riders in London behave like White Van drivers. I have been reading this thread and as i cycle each day through Canary Wharf i would like to let off some steam.........so stand back.

I have cycled for pleasure and pain in East London for years but its funny how i have noticed how selfish people have become on their bikes. i commute most days northward along the Regents Canal to work and i am sick and tired of having to be one of a few bicycle users that stop and give way. I finding myself more and more having to suddenly brake at bike traps or canal tunnels because some bloke covered head to foot in Lycra and sporting a mask the SAS would be proud of is hurtling at me at 100MPH. PLEASE, i know you've got a super duper, light as a feather, made from solid Tittybumiam mean machine between your legs but i don't need to see your arse rushing past me at rocket speeds........i cycle not swim home along the Regents Canal.

Rant over.
Feel better.

redddraggon

Porgy wrote:

I've noticed this elsewhere - if a car needs to get round another stopped vehicle and allt that's in the way is a cyclist - guess who has to get out of the way? :roll:

You are right on that one. Most drivers (most non-cyclist drivers at least) assume that they have the right of way if they are in a car and the other person is on a bike. They don't even know that you have the right to be in primary position.

Swannyriver

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

spen666 wrote:

Porgy wrote:

I don;t use it any more - but it was the main road from Greenwich tunnel around the west side up to Limehouse.

It's a nice clear fast road - so having to slow down on this bend was very annoying. Especially as I had right of way.

you sound like a motorist

Apart from the me riding a bike bit eh? :roll:

Erm the quote I highlighted is exactly the sort of remark a motorist makes. I know you were riding a bike, but you are exhibiting the same sort of self centred view that many motorists make - ie objecting to sharing road with others and complaining re anything slowing you down

Actually I wasn't - you were exhibiting a lack of abilty to read. PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THREAD OR KEEP YOUR POINTLESS REMARKS TO YOURSELF.

THANKYOU

Erm I haven't a clue what you are now bleating about.

I highlighted a quote you posted and said that particular comment sounded like a motorist would say. Are you now denying that you wrote the words in the post I quoted? Perhaps you've got a gremlin in your PC typing things for you.

Alternatively perhaps you don't like me pointing out that you are making the same sort of comments that some motorists make.

What you two sound like is a couple muppets on the side of the road arguing.