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Headset Play

jacktheocjacktheoc Posts: 1,556
edited November 2007 in MTB workshop & tech
Got my 2005 marzocchi 66's out of the garage today and tryed to put them on my 2005/2006 giant reign frame...put them on like i have before and tightened everything up put the front brake on and their is quite alot of play in the headset..so i took it off and tightened everything back up again...same problem. i have had my pike 454's on it for a while no problem and put these on and this happens :?
does anyone know why this is happening and ho i can fix it.
thanks for replies.

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  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 50,675 Lives Here
    Err the headset crown race is on which fork?
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  • jacktheocjacktheoc Posts: 1,556
    66's i have just took them out to have a look and everything seems to look ok its just that it is moving alot straight through the headset :? very confused
  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 50,675 Lives Here
    if every thing is there and you are using enough spacers then the headset is worb out.

    have you fitted the top bearing centering collar.
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  • jacktheocjacktheoc Posts: 1,556
    ermm not sure on that one which part is that...bit confused about headsets :? .
    i cant really see how it could be worn as i have used my pikes for a while on it no problem then i took them off put these on straight after and now it is like this... i might go and give these a try on my norco frame and see what it is like.
    thanks for the help 8)
  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 50,675 Lives Here
    have a read of park tools.

    there is a wedge that has to be fitted at the top to locate the steerer tube in the headset.
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  • jacktheocjacktheoc Posts: 1,556
    yeh i know what you mean now i think, yeh i had to push that in and thought it would grip it but it is still the same. took it apart then and looked down and their is a little gap either side of the steerer tube and the headset of about 4-5mm, so when i put the fork in it leant on the back of the headset and rattles when i push the bike forward.....
  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 50,675 Lives Here
    at the top? then the wedge is missing as that stops that happening.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • jacktheocjacktheoc Posts: 1,556
    yeh it was some little silver thing i put in before the spacer which i thought would stop it but it didnt, i have checked it now right through and their is a 3mm gap so the headset is not sitting properly...i can post a pic if it helps.
  • jacktheocjacktheoc Posts: 1,556
    anyone know what the problem is...
  • supersonicsupersonic Posts: 82,708 Lives Here
    Youve either not assembled it correctly, or not adjusted it correctly.
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  • cosworthcosworth Posts: 66
    ok...i undone the stem took it off took the spacers of, slipped the forks off and put the 66's in.. is their anything else mager i need to do?
  • Andy BAndy B Posts: 8,115
    Did you swap the crown race over too?

    It's a part of the headset which is fitted on the forks

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  • jacktheocjacktheoc Posts: 1,556
    yeh their was one on the 66's,does it matter of they are not the same or should i take the one of the the pikes!
  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 50,675 Lives Here
    you HAVE to use the correct one for the headset.

    they are not the same. oh and if you have used the bike the bottom bearing might be dead.

    fit the CORRECT race and clean and grease the bearings.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • jacktheocjacktheoc Posts: 1,556
    ok will get it sorted..thanks alot nick, i have used the bike but just for about 20metre will this still be ok
  • nicklousenicklouse Posts: 50,675 Lives Here
    could be. ps what did i say in my first reply?
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
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