Good tyres vs punctures

davethejackal

A friend of mine seem to be having extraordinaty bad luck with punctures over the last few weeks. I've had 3 he's had 4. All thorn induced other than 1 which was glass.

The tyres on our bikes are:

Bontrager Jones ACX 2.1 (mine)

Continental Explorer 2.1

I've considered going over to tubeless as a result but have been warned away from this by several people, anyone have any alternative solutions/recommendations?

Dan67

what pressure are you running your tyres up because highr pressures can mean reduced puncture but less comfort as oposed to low prexssures with lots of comfort. you could put slime tube in but they are quite heavy compared to a standard tube

cjw

davethejackal wrote:

I've considered going over to tubeless as a result but have been warned away from this by several people, anyone have any alternative solutions/recommendations?

Why? What's the problem with tubeless.... since I've put sealant in they've been great, before sealant had 2 punctures in about 6 months (both in the last 2 from thorns! Sealant has solved that :twisted:

davethejackal

cjw wrote:

davethejackal wrote:

I've considered going over to tubeless as a result but have been warned away from this by several people, anyone have any alternative solutions/recommendations?

Why? What's the problem with tubeless.... since I've put sealant in they've been great, before sealant had 2 punctures in about 6 months (both in the last 2 from thorns! Sealant has solved that :twisted:

Because if you do get a puncture that sealant can't fix (say a glass rip) they're f@ckers.

Amos

How often do you get a glass rip?

If its ripping the tyre you need to get a new tyre and tube, so theres no benefit there.

You could try running some heavy duty DH inner tubes.

davethejackal

Amos wrote:

How often do you get a glass rip?

If its ripping the tyre you need to get a new tyre and tube, so theres no benefit there.

You could try running some heavy duty DH inner tubes.

The problem is in making a temporary repair when out in the field rather than back home. I've heard that sorting tubeless out in the field can be a nightmare.

The Spiderman

You just stick a tube in,if you puncture.

cjw

davethejackal wrote:

cjw wrote:

davethejackal wrote:

I've considered going over to tubeless as a result but have been warned away from this by several people, anyone have any alternative solutions/recommendations?

Why? What's the problem with tubeless.... since I've put sealant in they've been great, before sealant had 2 punctures in about 6 months (both in the last 2 from thorns! Sealant has solved that :twisted:

Because if you do get a puncture that sealant can't fix (say a glass rip) they're f@ckers.

Not really... I carry a spare inner tube and if that happens you just pop that in.

davethejackal

I've heard problems can arise if the tyre becomes stuck to the rim or you get humk all over your hands when you take off the tyre.

petestew

id say go for slime, they offer a sealant gel that goes inside ur innertube, and a thin plastic kind of rim tape for the linning of ur tyre, they might be a small bit heavier than just a standard innertube, but its a small price to pay, and dont really understand why everyone is so concerned with weight, a few grams isnt going to ruin your riding experience

Spud Son

Interesting thread.

I run tubeless (UST rims & tyres) with wheel milk latex sealant and have no problems. I carry 2 x CO2 cartridges, Hutch FASTAIR CO2 / latex combo and a std puncture repair kit with some large patches.

This year, I have had several thorns with zero loss of pressure, and a sidewall rip in a quarry which was nasty. Saying that, a std patch on the inside of the tyre, 10mins to cure and CO2 to inflate got me 6 miles home without an issue.

Mavic sell valves with removable cores, which makes topping up with 50ml Wheel Milk every 3-4months a doddle. No mess, no fuss.

Hope this helps

sam1234

Since going tubless I'm still yet to puncture * . I still carry a couple of tubes in case disaster striks.



*probably get one this weekend know :twisted:

Splasher

Went round the resevoir last night. Part way round I heard a tick-tick noise and stopped. I hadn'y noticed in the dark that the hedge had been cut and my tyres had about 5 twigs impaled in each.

Ho hum. Miserable night - wind and rain - not the night to be stopping and taking tyres off. Pulled them out and rode on. Checked the tyres this morning and pulled 3 more thorns out - tyres are still up.

Eclipse tubeless kits, Mavic UST tyres and Stans sealant.