2008 Tour de France route

Ed in Vercors
Ed in Vercors Posts: 16
edited October 2007 in Pro race
Although I understand the Tour/Etape routes are not due to be announced until 25th Oct. Todays Dauphiné newspaper indicates a stage on the 23rd July from Embrun - Alpe d'Huez. Probably a similar course, if slightly shorter route as last years Etape ride.
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  • richa
    richa Posts: 1,631
    The route is officially announced on 25th October. So just 12 days to go.

    Will be lots of leaks and guesses over the next week-or-so. Let's list them here...
    Rich
  • richa
    richa Posts: 1,631
    Here goes...

    05 July 2008: Brest > Plumelec
    06 July 2008: Auray > Saint-Brieuc
    07 July 2008: Saint-Malo > Nantes of Saint-Malo > Cholet
    08 July 2008: Vallet > Châteauroux
    09 July 2008: La Châtre > Limoges
    10 July 2008: Lac de Vassivière (time trial)
    11 July 2008: ??? > Aurillac
    12 July 2008: ??? > ??? (Pyrenean 1)
    13 July 2008: ??? > ??? (Pyrenean 2)
    14 July 2008: rest day ???
    15 July 2008: ??? > ??? (Pyrenean 3)
    16 July 2008: ??? > ??? (Pyrenean 4)
    17 July 2008: ??? > ??? (Pyrenean 5)
    18 July 2008: ??? > ???
    19 July 2008: ??? > Digne-les-Bains
    20 July 2008: Digne-les-Bains > Cuneo (Italy)
    21 July 2008: rest day (Cuneo, Italy)
    22 July 2008: Cuneo (Italy) > ???
    23 July 2008: Embrun > ???
    24 July 2008: ??? > ??? (Alps 5)
    25 July 2008: ??? > Montluçon
    26 July 2008: Saint-Amand-Montrond > Cérilly (time trial)
    27 July 2008: ??? > Paris Champs Elysées

    http://paris.thover.com/story.php?l=en&f=SH&ID=65
    Rich
  • knedlicky
    knedlicky Posts: 3,097
    Very impressive, if incomplete! From where do you get your information?

    The Brittany stages were (practically) decided a while ago – and in its excitement the town Cholet let its involvement be known well in advance of what’s normal.

    Your 12-13 July stages (afer Aurillac) must surely still be in the Central Massif. I’d guess the Etape du Tour will be one of them this year.

    A stage from Cuneo back into France to Embrun suggests via the Col de Larche – where I crashed and broke my collarbone!
  • Noodley
    Noodley Posts: 1,725
    RichA wrote:
    Here goes...
    14 July 2008: rest day ???

    Nope, challenging me to a pint drinking competition....
  • ajohn9
    ajohn9 Posts: 260
    The start at Embrun will apparently finish atop alpe d'huez :)
  • richa
    richa Posts: 1,631
    knedlicky wrote:
    Very impressive, if incomplete! From where do you get your information?
    None of it is mine. I'm just encouraging that we collate all the rumours...

    http://paris.thover.com/story.php?l=en&f=SH&ID=65
    Rich
  • hammerite
    hammerite Posts: 3,408
    I'm planning my 2008 holiday around the last week of Le Tour (as it is first week of school holidays).

    So I await this eagerly. Any rumours are welcome too!
  • pat1cp
    pat1cp Posts: 766
    hammerite wrote:
    I'm planning my 2008 holiday around the last week of Le Tour (as it is first week of school holidays).

    So I await this eagerly. Any rumours are welcome too!

    Ditto. Can't wait. :lol:
  • hammerite
    hammerite Posts: 3,408
    pat1cp wrote:
    hammerite wrote:
    I'm planning my 2008 holiday around the last week of Le Tour (as it is first week of school holidays).

    So I await this eagerly. Any rumours are welcome too!

    Ditto. Can't wait. :lol:

    How are you doing it? Car and tent with bikes? or campervan?

    I think we're going to hire a campervan, meaning we won't have to put up/take down a tent every day.

    We're taking bikes too obviously but I doubt I'll get much of a chance to try any of the tough climbs as our 6 yo (7 by then) wouldn't be able to manage it. Although I could let the other half drop me at the bottom and meet them at the top!
  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    Can I be the first to start Ventoux rumours?..
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    14 July a rest day? No way in France, it's the national holiday and TV audiences and roadside crowds flock to the race.

    I've heard the Etape will be Pau > Hautacam.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Timoid. wrote:
    Can I be the first to start Ventoux rumours?..

    I see you and raise you a Puy de Dome rumour.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • pat1cp
    pat1cp Posts: 766
    hammerite wrote:
    pat1cp wrote:
    hammerite wrote:
    I'm planning my 2008 holiday around the last week of Le Tour (as it is first week of school holidays).

    So I await this eagerly. Any rumours are welcome too!

    Ditto. Can't wait. :lol:

    How are you doing it? Car and tent with bikes? or campervan?

    I think we're going to hire a campervan, meaning we won't have to put up/take down a tent every day.

    We're taking bikes too obviously but I doubt I'll get much of a chance to try any of the tough climbs as our 6 yo (7 by then) wouldn't be able to manage it. Although I could let the other half drop me at the bottom and meet them at the top!

    Bought a Motorhome this year so will be taking that and try and catch the last week in the Alps with probably half a weeks "holiday" either side.

    Do try some of the climbs, they're fantastic. My experience is limited but the ones I have tried have all been fantastic.
  • richa
    richa Posts: 1,631
    Kléber wrote:
    14 July a rest day? No way in France, it's the national holiday and TV audiences and roadside crowds flock to the race.
    Good point.
    Kléber wrote:
    I've heard the Etape will be Pau > Hautacam.
    Pyrenees? The general expectations appear to be the Alps?
    Rich
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    The Pyrenees are better for the Etape, in that they take smaller roads. Closing giant roads in the Alps, like those between Embrun and Alpe d'Huez means beaucoup disruption. But, since the Etape was in the Pyrenees this year, it could well revert the Alps.

    Either way, the prudent will reserve hotel rooms in Embrun and Pau...
  • Radsman
    Radsman Posts: 122
    what is the expected date, July 15th?
  • richa
    richa Posts: 1,631
    Filling out nicely...

    05 July 2008: Brest > Plumelec
    06 July 2008: Auray > Saint-Brieuc
    07 July 2008: Saint-Malo > Nantes
    08 July 2008: time trial Cholet or Vallet > Châteauroux??
    09 July 2008: La Châtre > Limoges
    10 July 2008: Lac de Vassivière (time trial)
    11 July 2008: ??? > Aurillac
    12 July 2008: Toulouse > Bagnères-de-Bigorre
    13 July 2008: rest day (Pau)
    14 July 2008: Pau > Hautacam
    15 July 2008: Lannemezan > Foix
    16 July 2008: Lavelanet > ???
    17 July 2008: ??? > Perpignan
    18 July 2008: ?Perpignan > Nîmes
    19 July 2008: Nîmes > Digne-les-Bains
    20 July 2008: Digne-les-Bains > Cuneo (Italy)
    21 July 2008: rest day (Cuneo, Italy)
    22 July 2008: Cuneo (Italy) > ???
    23 July 2008: Embrun > ???
    24 July 2008: ??? > ??? (Alps 5)
    25 July 2008: ??? > Montluçon
    26 July 2008: Saint-Amand-Montrond > Cérilly (time trial)
    27 July 2008: ??? > Paris Champs Elysées

    I would expect the Etape to be on the 1st rest day (Sunday 13th)
    Rich
  • richa
    richa Posts: 1,631
    Kléber wrote:
    Either way, the prudent will reserve hotel rooms in Embrun and Pau...

    Etape: Embrun > Alp d'Huez. Surely not Alp d'Huez again.
    Rich
  • Radsman
    Radsman Posts: 122
    Are you sure they are having a Sunday restday? Weekends must be have the biggest audiences, TV and personal? No?
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Rest days are usually Mondays or Tuesdays...

    The list above has too many speculative guesses!
  • And there is normally a tt on the weekend so as to bring out the crowds.

    As there is not prologue on the first saturday, you will probably find a tt on the following saturday
  • richa
    richa Posts: 1,631
    Today's latest:

    S05 July 2008: Brest > Plumelec
    S06 July 2008: Auray > Saint-Brieuc
    M07 July 2008: Saint-Malo > Nantes
    T08 July 2008: time trial Cholet or Vallet > Châteauroux??
    W09 July 2008: La Châtre > Limoges
    T10 July 2008: Lac de Vassivière (time trial)
    F11 July 2008: ??? > Aurillac
    S12 July 2008: Toulouse > Bagnères-de-Bigorre
    S13 July 2008: rest day (Pau)
    M14 July 2008: Pau > Hautacam
    T15 July 2008: Lannemezan > Foix
    W16 July 2008: Lavelanet > ???
    T17 July 2008: ??? > Perpignan
    F18 July 2008: ?Perpignan > Nîmes
    S19 July 2008: Nîmes > Digne-les-Bains
    S20 July 2008: Digne-les-Bains > Cuneo (Italy)
    M21 July 2008: rest day (Cuneo, Italy)
    T22 July 2008: Cuneo (Italy) > Alpe d'Huez
    W23 July 2008: Embrun > ???
    T24 July 2008: ??? > ??? (Alps 5)
    F25 July 2008: Roanne > Montluçon
    S26 July 2008: Saint-Amand-Montrond > Cérilly (time trial)
    S27 July 2008: ??? > Paris Champs Elysées

    Updates in Red

    Source
    Rich
  • For those who might be interested in the Grand Depart, I'm hoping to arrange a trip to include riding the first 2 stages, watching them etc etc.

    I have friends in the centre of Brittany who have SC accomodation, and it will be fully supported, all you will need to get on the ferry is yourself, bike and change of clothes. :P

    If you are interested please e-mail me on rob.spate@landregistry.gsi.gov.uk in the first instant.
    People ask me what I'm on. I'm on my bike 6 hours a day busting my arse. That's what I'm on.

    — Lance Armstrong


  • The word in the French forums is the Etape is Pau - Hautacam (with tourmalet included).
    This seems to be pretty certain by the number of people quoting good sources.

    The Lavalenet stage is likely to head towards Toulouse on the 16th July.
  • richa
    richa Posts: 1,631
    The word in the French forums is the Etape is Pau - Hautacam (with tourmalet included).
    This seems to be pretty certain by the number of people quoting good sources.
    Shame its the Pyrenees not Alps. On the plus side should be much more accomodation available than in sleepy Foix.
    Rich
  • Radsman
    Radsman Posts: 122
    RichA wrote:
    The word in the French forums is the Etape is Pau - Hautacam (with tourmalet included).
    This seems to be pretty certain by the number of people quoting good sources.
    Shame its the Pyrenees not Alps. On the plus side should be much more accomodation available than in sleepy Foix.

    there is always marmotte
  • ajohn9
    ajohn9 Posts: 260
    jesus, all the room are already booked on alpe d'huez for around that time!
  • richa
    richa Posts: 1,631
    ajohn9 wrote:
    jesus, all the room are already booked on alpe d'huez for around that time!
    Are you sure? Alp d'Huez has ALOT of accommodation...

    http://www.alpedhuez.com/ete/template.php?cat=29&souscat=18
    Rich
  • leguape
    leguape Posts: 986
    rumour I heard secondhand was it being shorter at about 150km and only 2 climbs, in the Alps, and a 'horseshoe" route. Usually it alternates between Alps and Pyrenees but I guess it might depend whether the Massif Central gets a proper look in this year, something Prudhomme had been hinting at last year.

    EDIT - isn't it it also usually on the first mountain rest day which would probably rule out the Pyrenees - the idea being that that town gets two hits of tour action a week apart?
  • Rich.H
    Rich.H Posts: 443
    leguape wrote:
    rumour I heard secondhand was it being shorter at about 150km and only 2 climbs, in the Alps, and a 'horseshoe" route. Usually it alternates between Alps and Pyrenees but I guess it might depend whether the Massif Central gets a proper look in this year, something Prudhomme had been hinting at last year.

    I was told this by one of the tour operators at the cycle show on Saturday - 160km in the Alps, 2 Col's (inc Madeleine?).Chambery was also mentioned....

    Rich