Importing bikes
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Is it actually going to be any cheaper? I just bought a new bike in the uk, thought about importing but the frame in the US was only £200 cheaper, factor in the flights etc and it just wasn't worth it. Guess if it's a US brand you are after then it could be cheaper!
- 2023 Vielo V+1
- 2022 Canyon Aeroad CFR
- 2020 Canyon Ultimate CF SLX
- Strava
- On the Strand
- Crown Stables
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aracer wrote:I seem to remember reading somewhere that you could legally shoot a Welshman in Chester using a crossbow after sunset.
It's true, 'onest injun it's true.
If you're Welsh I'll send you the directions to Chester.
Just give me a date and ETA once you have recieved the info and i'll organise a welcoming committee.
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Hey sexybird, are you stalking me? If so, are you really sexy? More importantly are you really a bird?0
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Ah well ,never mind.
Wot you doin Sunday
Out on the bike?0 -
Hmm - so maybe you'll save a bit, but what about the warranty on the frame ? Is that still valid ? Your cheap bargain may turn out to be not that good value after all. Plus the end of year sales here = you can get a fair bit off last years models.
And very good point about the US bikes being Left hand drive.... 0 -
Hudster wrote:aracer wrote:No, I just pay taxes and appreciate having the NHS, police and other things they pay for. Always find it strange how people who are presumably pretty law abiding can be discussing methods of tax evasion on an internet forum :?
Agreed. Trying to avoid paying the tax is illegal and this little fact seems to get lost.
Why not avoid paying VED and insurance for your car as well while you're at it? Oh, and council tax. There are plenty of easy ways to avoid both of them...
You are of course both correct but it is annoying that we seem to get shafted with tax at every opportunity, how many times when out shopping do you see signs stating that foreigners can shop tax free in this country?
We work and pay 'PAYE' tax on our earnings, then we invest the money in a building society, and pay tax on the interest, then we use the interest to buy something, and you pay VAT. Oh and don't forget that the seller will pay tax on their profits (your money taxed again!!!)Tarpaullynn0 -
Just about never - I obviously don't live in this country's centre of the universe.tarpaullynn wrote:how many times when out shopping do you see signs stating that foreigners can shop tax free in this country?
I'd suggest if you're bothered about how much tax you pay then smuggling bikes is pretty small beer - you want to get a cash in hand job, which also has the advantage of getting to know lots of other people who will do cash in hand jobs for you. Then find somebody to sell you imported booze out of the back of their white van. Oh, and don't forget to be mates with a farmer so you can fill your car up with red diesel. Finally go and sign on and get the benefits you are due, as obviously you don't officially have any income. Can't see why you'd have a problem with doing any of that if you're happy to evade duty and VAT when importing a bike.
Alternatively emigrate - though I wouldn't recommend Sweden, and if you're going to the US make sure you get some health insurance, and don't become unemployed.0 -
tarpaullynn wrote:You are of course both correct but it is annoying that we seem to get shafted with tax at every opportunity, how many times when out shopping do you see signs stating that foreigners can shop tax free in this country?
I have to say that I have never ever seen that at all when out shopping, except for the airport and that's for people outside of the EU rather than "foreigners".
When out spending the money I've earned, I am grateful that I have a spare amount of money to spend. It makes me glad that I live in such a country and have no worries about paying taxes and all the things that they provides me. Try living in the US for a while where everyone is moaning that things being cheaper and you'll perhaps see the benefit of those taxes you seem obsessed about.
Anyway, that's all political and if you disagree then you have the option to vote to change it, stand for election yourself, or go live elsewhere. The situation at the moment is that it's illegal to smuggle bike parts into the country.
The other thing to consider is that land in this country is expensive because we're small and over crowed. Nothing to do with taxes. So if you want to store anything, it costs more than other places.
And finally, as has been mentioned, it's not actually that much cheaper when you calculate it all. Even with the favourable exchange rate.0 -
aracer wrote:
Just about never - I obviously don't live in this country's centre of the universe.tarpaullynn wrote:how many times when out shopping do you see signs stating that foreigners can shop tax free in this country?
I'd suggest if you're bothered about how much tax you pay then smuggling bikes is pretty small beer - you want to get a cash in hand job, which also has the advantage of getting to know lots of other people who will do cash in hand jobs for you. Then find somebody to sell you imported booze out of the back of their white van. Oh, and don't forget to be mates with a farmer so you can fill your car up with red diesel. Finally go and sign on and get the benefits you are due, as obviously you don't officially have any income. Can't see why you'd have a problem with doing any of that if you're happy to evade duty and VAT when importing a bike.
Alternatively emigrate - though I wouldn't recommend Sweden, and if you're going to the US make sure you get some health insurance, and don't become unemployed.
Yawwwwwnnnnn :roll:
Hmmm I wonder if you've paid tax on that chip on your shoulder, must be a mega tax bill judging by the size of it.
Try shopping in any city centre or retail outlet park, you'll see the tax free shopping signs for foreigners.
Yeah it bugs me how much tax I pay, can't see where I said I wanted to smuggle a bike in though. I've been lucky enough to work since leaving school a long long time ago so have paid my dues over the years, I believe that gives me the right to comment on such matters.Tarpaullynn0 -
Hudster wrote:I have to say that I have never ever seen that at all when out shopping, except for the airport and that's for people outside of the EU rather than "foreigners".
On Regents Street in London alone you can shop tax free at Aquascutum, Austin Reed, Burberry, Church's Shoes, Clarks Shoes, Esprit, Folli Follie, French Connection, H&M, Hugo Boss, Lillywhites, Next, Niketown, Oasis, Swarovski, Talbots, Virgin Megastores, Wedgewood, Zara.
http://www.regentstreetonline.com/RegentStreet/VisitorinfoChannel/Tax-Free+Shopping.htm
The same is true in most city centre's.
Also I wouldn't say I was obsessed about taxes, they're a fact of life but I think most people gripe about them in one form or another, petrol, income tax and yes buying from abroad.
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Really? Well I regularly shop in a city, and it's certainly not true for mine (I note you only quote a location for the centre of the universe, not for any other city - how much experience do you have of other parts of the UK?)tarpaullynn wrote:The same is true in most city centre's.
Didn't realise you had to earn the right to be able to comment on such things - presumably as I've only got 19 tax paying years behind me I'm not fully qualified? Anyway, if you are as old as you suggest, at least you're likely to get something back in the way of a pension, unlike us youngsters.
Actually though, if you do have no intention of evading tax on a bike, why on earth did you jump in here and take the whole thread way off topic?0 -
aracer wrote:
Really? Well I regularly shop in a city, and it's certainly not true for mine (I note you only quote a location for the centre of the universe, not for any other city - how much experience do you have of other parts of the UK?)tarpaullynn wrote:The same is true in most city centre's.
Didn't realise you had to earn the right to be able to comment on such things - presumably as I've only got 19 tax paying years behind me I'm not fully qualified? Anyway, if you are as old as you suggest, at least you're likely to get something back in the way of a pension, unlike us youngsters.
Actually though, if you do have no intention of evading tax on a bike, why on earth did you jump in here and take the whole thread way off topic?
See that chips getting bigger young man.
Next time you're in your city have a look out for notices regarding tax free shopping, if you are that interested, ask in store. The example given was the first one that came up on the net, lots of others though. As for other parts of the UK, I'm married so have spent most of my adult life trawling around city centre stores, name a place, I'll have either been to it or near it, maybe not your obscure city though and its lack of tax free shopping opportunities for our foreign brethren.
Right to comment? Do we not live in a democracy?
Oh yes I'm old, 41 and counting my days down to getting my pension which incidentally is taxed.
As for jumping in and throwing the topic way off subject, I had a view which followed on from a few others views on taxation, I think you may find someone beat me to throwing the topic off subject, the comment went something like this,
No, I just pay taxes and appreciate having the NHS, police and other things they pay for. Always find it strange how people who are presumably pretty law abiding can be discussing methods of tax evasion on an internet forum
Maybe you won't see that though with you not being from the centre of MY universe.
I'm off to work now, must go earn some more pennies for the taxman.Tarpaullynn0 -
The difference, which you have obviously failed to notice is that before you came in to have a general whinge about taxation, we were all talking about paying the tax on bikes, hence on topic, and I did also have other cycling related content in my post you selectively quoted! (as long as you exclude the little interchage with NonSexyBloke :? )tarpaullynn wrote:
As for jumping in and throwing the topic way off subject, I had a view which followed on from a few others views on taxation, I think you may find someone beat me to throwing the topic off subject, the comment went something like this,aracer wrote:Actually though, if you do have no intention of evading tax on a bike, why on earth did you jump in here and take the whole thread way off topic?0 -
Oh dear aracer,better take one of your little ego pills.
Not winning many friends with your confrontational style are you?
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I really like my Tax. It's a great of staying fit in the winter....
Tax... Tacx (Geddit...)0 -
aracer wrote:The difference, which you have obviously failed to notice is that before you came in to have a general whinge about taxation, we were all talking about paying the tax on bikes, hence on topic, and I did also have other cycling related content in my post you selectively quoted! (as long as you exclude the little interchage with NonSexyBloke :? )
Ah yes, cycling related content, some memorable quotes include,
'so you're talking a load of rubbish'
'I seem to remember reading somewhere that you could legally shoot a Welshman in Chester using a crossbow after sunset.'
'Are you planning on paying duty/VAT or smuggling? '
'No, I just pay taxes and appreciate having the NHS, police and other things they pay for. Always find it strange how people who are presumably pretty law abiding can be discussing methods of tax evasion on an internet forum '
Quality :roll:Tarpaullynn0 -
I'm guessing from your exercise in forensic selective quoting that my comment about Welshmen in Chester went completely over your head - ie in your enthusiasm to find anything I might have ever said on this thread you didn't notice the post immediately before that I was replying to?0
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aracer wrote:I'm guessing from your exercise in forensic selective quoting that my comment about Welshmen in Chester went completely over your head - ie in your enthusiasm to find anything I might have ever said on this thread you didn't notice the post immediately before that I was replying to?
Oh yes I noticed, just wanted the last word to go to your quality cycling posts. :P
Anyway getting back onto thread could the original poster not take an empty cycle case out then bring a full one back?Tarpaullynn0
