seat pin sizes

cartesr
cartesr Posts: 70
edited October 2007 in Workshop
Hi
just doing a fixed conversion with a second hand road frame, not sure of the seat pin size required so tried a campag one from my Ribble and it doesnt fit. The Ribble is roughly 27.2. I measured the other frame with some calipers and its 26.76 or 26.52 depending om where I put the calipers inside. So Im confused should I be looking for a 26mm seat pin or 25mm. Anybody out there any idea what size is required

cheers
I used to do a bit meself you know

Comments

  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    and what is the make and modle and year of your frame.

    seat posts have a number of sizes changing by 0.2mm at each step.

    so more info or LBS time for a measurement.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • cartesr
    cartesr Posts: 70
    Hi thanks for your response

    the frame is italian ive been told its a Barechi and was made in the early 90's its made fom cloumbus aelle tubing, thats all I know Im afraid

    cheers
    I used to do a bit meself you know
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    There are countless sizes of seatpost sizes for steel frames - knowing the type of tubeset can help - 27.2, 27.0 and 26.4 are probably the most popular. From what you say, sounds like a 26.4mm is what you need - your LBS may have a tapered seatpost gauge, which has a series of graduated dimensions - stick it in the frame and go for the dimension just below the seat collar. Alternatively, go for a 25mm post and use a shim from the likes of USE - means you never have to worry about the post getting stuck either.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • cartesr
    cartesr Posts: 70
    thanks very much for the advice ill ask my lbs if they do have a measuring device , if not ill get a 26.4

    regards
    I used to do a bit meself you know
  • gundersen
    gundersen Posts: 586
    then you will need a coke can

    if i remember correctly columbus aelle is 26.8
  • cartesr
    cartesr Posts: 70
    cheers for the advice
    I used to do a bit meself you know
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    If you buy a 26.8 post, which will have a nominal diamter of 26.5 - 26.6mm, given your dimensions it might be a bit of a squeeze. Before you trash a new post, may be worth getting your LBS to check the size and perhaps running a reamer down the tube to get it 'round' and the right size.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • cartesr
    cartesr Posts: 70
    Hi

    Im very confused now, so a 26.8 seat pin isnt 26.8 then?

    I tried the seat pin from my MTB last night which is 26.4 (stated on the pin) and they is a fair amount of play when inserted in. When tighten up its easily koved from side to side
    but doesnt slide down on its own accord but I guess 26.4 isnt really 26.4.

    I think Im going to have to take it to my lbs,

    again thanks for your help
    I used to do a bit meself you know
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    think about it. if they were exactly the same size they would not fit together.

    there is a certain tolerance to allow fit. the pin will be, to use easy numbers, 10mm+0-0,1 and the teat tube 10mm+0,1-0 as an example. i dont actually know what the real tollerances are.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    The diameter refers to the actual internal diameter of the frame tube - there needs to be a small clearance between the post and the tube for it to slide easily in position - for a seat post this is probably about 0.1mm to give a little room for clamping and to ensure you can get it out again. Any difference bigger than about 0.25mm is considered a 'free' fit. As said, you'd be better off going to your LBS to check the diameter and perhaps getting them to run a reamer down it - steel tubes in particular can become internally corroded which can make them smaller in diameter and can jam a post.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..