Beeped by bus...
avoidingmyphd
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I was just beeped at by a bus in central Manchester (portland street by piccadilly gardens). He opened the doors at the next lights so I could ask why. It was because I "just sat there waiting all the time when the light was red, and then suddently started off when it went green".
I suspect the real reason was that I was "on a bike."
I suspect the real reason was that I was "on a bike."
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The bus driver expected you to RLJ? Just goes to show how RLJers stuff it up for everyone else.0
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Or, alternatively, how intelligent one must be to become a bus driver...0
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This happened to me the other day. Near trafalgar square there is a traffic light turning right, and not really space for more than one bus to wait - otherwise they have to wait to make the turn.
But I was there first, waiting for the light (which takes ages) and there was not room for a bus. A bus started hooting me to jump the light, as he had made the turn without checking there was enough space for him to wait (hence was blocking the road the other way).
It was one of those tourist buses, never had a normal bus do that to me before...0 -
Big Red S wrote:Or, alternatively, how intelligent one must be to become a bus driver...
agrees* iv been hit only twice (a near miss evry week tho :P) once by a ParcelForce Van (which didnt stop) and once by a bus which ran right into the back of me when i was w8ing for a gap onto a roundabout.
(w8s for the flames from bus driving cyclists...nah there arnt any
) Good Luck and Be Fecund0 -
i know a doctor who couldnt point out egypt on a map so take it easy on bus drivers.0
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Darrenov wrote:i know a doctor who couldnt point out egypt on a map so take it easy on bus drivers.
He was in denial<a>road</a>0 -
el_presidente wrote:Darrenov wrote:i know a doctor who couldnt point out egypt on a map so take it easy on bus drivers.
He was in denial
oh dear....I'll get you coat 8)0 -
el_presidente wrote:Darrenov wrote:i know a doctor who couldnt point out egypt on a map so take it easy on bus drivers.
He was in denial
That sphinx0 -
So you think you could pass the bus drivers test do you.Big Red S wrote:Or, alternatively, how intelligent one must be to become a bus driver...0 -
Don't you just love bus drivers.FCN 100
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Darrenov wrote:i know a doctor who couldnt point out egypt on a map so take it easy on bus drivers.
Egypt?
Just North of Slough, some good woods to ride in too!
Ride Egypt in a day?
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.Now living happily at http://www.uk-mtb.com !!0 -
I have to say on my commute to work (Walsall to Cannock) the most frequent problems i have are with bus drivers. The old "overtake then cut you up at the bus stop" trick is personal favourite of mine ! ! :x0
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syncro wrote:I have to say on my commute to work (Walsall to Cannock) the most frequent problems i have are with bus drivers. The old "overtake then cut you up at the bus stop" trick is personal favourite of mine ! ! :x
If you are a road user then you should know your highway code........Give way to the bus.........it's not a request, it's a highway code rule. Technically speaking a bus is one great big in your face give way sign, collide with a bus pulling in or out of a bus stop and you are in deep poo because you simply did not give way where you should have done. Have look in your highway code book, depending on which edition you have, it used to be rule 56, then it was rule 79. They should make every driver in the country take a little test and take them past a bus coming out of a bus stop, 99.99% would FAIL.0 -
Paul SH, have a little look through here:
http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/
And tell us the rule where it's OK for a bus driver to overtake and cut back in front of you.0 -
What about if a bus is behind a give way line, surely you don't have to give way to them then?
I only ask because I was going fairly fast round the Vauxhall gyratory the other night (light was green for me), under the bridge, and there was a bus pulling out of the station from behind his give way line. I braked and gave him a questioning look, and he waved me on but looked very irritated, as though I was somehow in the wrong.0 -
there was a bus pulling out of the station from behind his give way line
So you might not have been in sight when the bus started to move. So legitimate for it to pull out but considerate to reconsider if a new vehicle appears so early in the maneuver that they can sensibly stop.Training, highway design and increasing cycle numbers are important to safety. Helmets are just a red herring.0 -
As far as I am aware, the "give way to buses" rule ONLY applies when they are pulling out from a bus stop, and not during other occasions.0
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I would probably have given way to him, except that might have resulted in a car going into the back of me because they all put their foot down round there and even on the old sit up and beg I go as fast as I can to keep up - the fact that it has about four lanes means that in the drivers' minds it qualifies as a motorway, apparently.
I always give way to buses indicating to pull out.0 -
I never give way to buses pulling out because London bus drivers are, with too few exceptions to be worth worrying about, ignorant morons or psychopathic morons. The only test they have to pass is to see whether they have an IQ over 70 - if they do they must have a lobotomy then do a retake. Scum of the earth.0
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BentMikey wrote:Paul SH, have a little look through here:
http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/
And tell us the rule where it's OK for a bus driver to overtake and cut back in front of you.
Can you also find in it where it says bus drivers are allowed to pull along side you open his doors and shout abuse, then drive off thinking they are ok until you catch them at the lights.
Happened to me years ago before road rage and all that, caught him at traffic lights jumped on the bus and started arguing with police turned up about to cart me off when another passenger, also a trusty cyclist came to my aid and said what had happened. he was then taken away and passengers put on another bus. Courtesy on the road works both ways. I also got a written apology from the bus company then Merseybus(Liverpool area)0 -
misterben wrote:As far as I am aware, the "give way to buses" rule ONLY applies when they are pulling out from a bus stop, and not during other occasions.
Yes, but is there a specific rule for this? Or is it just the general one about not overtaking vehicles indicating right?0 -
BentMikey wrote:misterben wrote:As far as I am aware, the "give way to buses" rule ONLY applies when they are pulling out from a bus stop, and not during other occasions.
Yes, but is there a specific rule for this? Or is it just the general one about not overtaking vehicles indicating right?
http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/20.htm#198
198: Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road.<a>road</a>0 -
Paul Sh wrote:syncro wrote:I have to say on my commute to work (Walsall to Cannock) the most frequent problems i have are with bus drivers. The old "overtake then cut you up at the bus stop" trick is personal favourite of mine ! ! :x
If you are a road user then you should know your highway code........Give way to the bus.........it's not a request, it's a highway code rule. Technically speaking a bus is one great big in your face give way sign, collide with a bus pulling in or out of a bus stop and you are in deep poo because you simply did not give way where you should have done. Have look in your highway code book, depending on which edition you have, it used to be rule 56, then it was rule 79. They should make every driver in the country take a little test and take them past a bus coming out of a bus stop, 99.99% would FAIL.
Where does it say buses can get three quarters of the way past and then pull in without indicating, putting me up the kerb in the process?? Also i really dont think this gives them the right to pull out when your part way past them at a stop. I think your mis-interpreting the rule. It doesn't give them the right to barge their way into and out of traffic.0 -
No but if there's a bus inicating to pull out and you haven't started to pass them i would always give way. On roads where there is no dedicated bus stop, ie they just pull to the side of the road it must be quite difficult to see a bike overtaking not least considering how fast you're likely to be going, and unless you pull out WAY in advance you're going to most likely be hidden behind the bus until the last moment. All it could take is for them to check the side mirror, check the rear veiw mirror and then not to recheck the side mirror before pulling off.
Doesn't make it excusable but i can imagine it is fairly difficult for a bus driver to spot and fast moving overtaking cyclist. Which is why i'll always let buses out, don't fancy arguing with one.
Incidentally i let a coach out the other day. I'd moved out the cycle lane into the nearside lane of a 2 lane road taking the laneto overtake the coach. The coach started to indicate when i was reasonably close but not so close it was impossible for me to stop. The coach driver had obv seen me as i could tell he started to get more cautious and wasn't 100% sure if i was letting him out or not. So he indicated with his arm out the window to confirm with me that he was pulling out in front of me
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BentMikey wrote:Yes, but is there a specific rule for this? Or is it just the general one about not overtaking vehicles indicating right?
Err, but not-overtaking-vehicles-indicating-right does not apply to stopped vehicles waiting to pull out. You are not overtaking them since they are still waiting to pull out and not part of the traffic.
Buses it does specifically mention pulling away
198: Buses, coaches and trams. Give priority to these vehicles when you can do so safely, especially when they signal to pull away from stops. Look out for people getting off a bus or tram and crossing the road.Training, highway design and increasing cycle numbers are important to safety. Helmets are just a red herring.0
