Is weight everything

canada16
canada16 Posts: 2,360
edited September 2007 in MTB buying advice
Hey Guys

I have just been through some of the forums and been looking at some 2005, 2006 and 2007 bikes, but even What mountain bike, MBR do not state any weight reviews, whats the big problem?

Cant find anywere on Trek, Giant, GT, Scott nothing what the bike weight is..

But if you want to buy a street bike, they will tell you weight.

Can someone tell me were to get the bikes weights from, as have e-mailed all the above weeks ago and not one person has responded to me, even thought i got £1000.00 in my pocket?

I think Customer service has gone down the TUBE...

I remember when the first gt zaskar came out and eveyone was talking about weight.

ITS NOT THAT BIG A DEAL, even reviews will not state?

THANKS

Comments

  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Depends on your ideals, fitness,terrain - many factors. Sometimes a couple of extra pounds is worthwhile if it makes the bike stronger and/or perfrom better ie discs etc. Also more money usually equals better strength to weight.

    My two bikes, a ZaskarLE (22lbs) and GT Ruckus (31lbs) are both built for the terrain I ride - XC with the first one, technical trails with the last. And the weight difference is extremely noticable. It can also depend where the weight is located, ie wheels. Manufacturers rarely tell you the weights, they dont feel it to be important compared to the 'ride' and 'quality', which is infact BS as they all strive to drop weight and say the parts where it has been dropped! They contradict themselves!
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    PS Street is not Road in MTB world.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    WMB do state the weights in the little window for spec too.
  • canada16
    canada16 Posts: 2,360
    That is the most honest answer i have herd.

    Thanks dude.

    But my problem is that i have been waiting two months to get, what seems to be a simple answer, what weighs more the :

    Trek 5.5 2008

    giant trance 3 2008

    not one company will tell me, and this is factory weight we are talking about not any mods.

    they build these bikes and cannot tell you the weight, seems like buying a car but they do not tell you the price?

    Nice 1 supersonic
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    MBUK also list the weights in the "spec deck".
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • bryanm
    bryanm Posts: 218
    Manufacturers have stopped specifying weights because they vary from bike to bike.
    I ride either a 21lb road bike, or a 28lb FS MTB. Both are good bikes, both ride well and feel good. Neither feels heavy or cumbersome when riding. In fact, I often use the MTB on the road with the suspension locked out because the gearing makes the hills easier!
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    canada16 wrote:
    That is the most honest answer i have herd.

    Thanks dude.

    But my problem is that i have been waiting two months to get,

    err go to a shop and weigh them? most shops that i know have a means to weigh them.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    I dont know the weights, but as nick says, most good shops will weigh them. Dont let them tell you its not important - if its important to you, thats what matters. And when out all day on a bike, a 28lbs bike feels a lot better than a 32lb one!
  • canada16
    canada16 Posts: 2,360
    This is what im talking about

    The Giant and Trek are both really good bikes and the 2008 bikes are slowly rolling out in shop.

    But trying to get trek or giant to tell me the weight of the bikes, it seems like im asking mclaren to get me some stolen info on ferrari? LOL

    Its not that big a deal, they are both factory bikes with the same specs and same price.

    Nice one guys, will have to depend on myself, until bike mags start reviewing the lower end of the normal person's budget.

    Who has got £4000.00 to spend on a factory built bike?

    My name is Simon and thats my 2 Cents.


    Ride hard or die flying>>>>>>>>>>
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    here is the main reason the some of the big bike makers do not issue weights.

    bike a in the USA weights 30lbs, bike a in the UK weights 28lbs and in europe it weighs 31lbs.

    the bike specs are very often very different as they are built to different price points.

    it is the same with road bikes the specs, weights change.

    wait for the tests or get to the shops.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • While there are spec differences for some makers between the US and Europe, it's not that common, especially not once you're in the bike class where people really care about weight.

    My personal theory is that bike makers got fed up of the mysterious gravitational distortion field that seems to affect bikes as soon as they get outside their marketing departments. A bike that really and truly, honest guvnor, weighed 28lb in the marketing office will mysteriously gain 2lb or more in the real world.

    After a while, these poor souls got fed up of being called liars by bike journalists and stopped claiming weights, leaving us only with the makers of ready-built wheels to pick on. And tyre manufacturers. And, well, actually just about everyone but Shimano and Campagnolo.
    John Stevenson
  • canada16
    canada16 Posts: 2,360
    Thanks dude for the reply and nice too see and editor respond

    I have just heard back from trek and they have told me factory weight is about 31lbs on the trek fuel ex 5.5. so is this a good weight? as the giant trance 3 seemed a lot more meaty than this.

    Can i add my two cents as well about reviews without seeming ungratefull or rude?

    It seems like their is a lot of reviews on the upper-class bikes like the 9.5 trek and carbon fibre frams, i got to admit i love drooling over these bikes, but no honest working 9-5 guys could ever afford these bikes and i would love to see more reviews on the lower spec bike, around the £800.00 - 1500.00 mark.. i know their is a few, but not as much as there should be.

    Thanks once again, and can now understand about not discussing weight.
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    From what Ive seen the reviews cover a broad range. from 200 quid bikes to 5000 qyid, with many reviewed below 1k. The Trek is bang on the nose for the money - as before, the more you pay the lighter they become.
  • Neily03
    Neily03 Posts: 295
    canada16 wrote:
    they build these bikes and cannot tell you the weight, seems like buying a car but they do not tell you the price?

    Surely its more buying a car and them not telling you the weight? :wink::lol:
  • canada16
    canada16 Posts: 2,360
    i suppose now that i know why they wont tell people the weight i feel kinda bad for going on one,

    have seen 3 different 5.5 trek bikes, now the one that trek is listing comes with 302 tora's i think but some places are selling them with 289's solo air or u-turn.

    They have been changed which i cant understand, so i see why bike comp's are reluctant to release bike weight.

    Thanks guys, as am sort of new to this bike thing as have not biked for a bit left canada and came to wales so had a few year gap between rides.
  • The basic problem all publications have is that there are something like 2,000 models of bike available on the UK market (and that's just counting adult bikes above about 200 quid). How do we choose what to review? We try to cover the whole range of prices and bike types, but with limited resources there are inevitably gaps.
    John Stevenson