mech way rounds???

Will Snow
Will Snow Posts: 1,154
edited September 2007 in MTB workshop & tech
Right, if my mech naturally goes to the smallest sprocket with no cable is it:
Top normal
Low normal
Rapid rise

or all of the above. Frankly getting annoyed at the lack of help the chainreaction and shimano website has. My shifter works that i can shift to a easier gear with the bottom paddle (so three at a time) and down shift to harder gear (smaller sprocket) one at a time. again, is this
Top normal
Low normal
Rapid rise

Please, someone has gotta know this, i thought i knew, and now i have read so many contradicting reports (doesnt help you can use rapid fire shifter and normal mechs, and vice versa...) i dont know what is what. Cheers guys (and gals)
i ride a hardtail

Comments

  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    rapid rise has the spring pulling the mech to the big cog.

    normal has the spring pulling the mech to the small cog.
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  • Will Snow
    Will Snow Posts: 1,154
    Top normal spring for use with Rapidfire shifters

    So this means the default position will be the big sprocket???

    so.....

    Top normal = rapid rise = big sprocket

    Low normal = conventional shifting = small sprocket

    Damn, this bike things quite complex...
    Cheers
    i ride a hardtail
  • stu8975
    stu8975 Posts: 1,334
    Nooooooo Will

    Top normal - conventional shifting - mech naturally goes to the small cog/shifters are conventional shifting

    Low normal (rapid rise) - opposite shifting - mech naturally goes to the big cog/shifters will work the opposite, big paddle changes down to harder gear.


    Hope this helps
  • Will Snow
    Will Snow Posts: 1,154
    so why the top normal spring for use with rapidfire triggers??? isnt that a contradiction in terms???
    i ride a hardtail
  • stu8975
    stu8975 Posts: 1,334
    Rear mechs have always had top normal springs, until the introduction of rapid rise/low normal springs a few years back...rapidfire shifters work correctly with top normal mechs but shift opposite with rapid rise mechs, i think sram do a shimano rapid rise friendly shifter...ps. not everything on chainreactions site is correctly described so i wouldnt read too much into it...if you are changing your mech and it naturally goes to the smallest sprocket then you need a top normal one.
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Rapidfire is not rapidrise. You can use the shifters with either type of mech - its your own preference.
  • Will Snow
    Will Snow Posts: 1,154
    supersonic wrote:
    Rapidfire is not rapidrise. You can use the shifters with either type of mech - its your own preference.


    ... that expains it then. my bad!!!
    i ride a hardtail
  • nferrar
    nferrar Posts: 2,511
    Yeah Shimano should get 30 lashes for doing low-normal and confusing most average joes out there, took me 10 minutes of explaining in an LBS and playing with different rear mechs to be confident it really was a top-normal replacement I needed (didn't have the old one to hand :p ).