Enigma titanium quick releases - Any good?

rjsmith
rjsmith Posts: 1,924
edited August 2007 in Workshop
Enigma titanium quick releases - Any good?



As per the title really. They seem stupidly light but £50 is a lot to pay of they don't hold the wheel well or are a pain to use.

Has anybody used them and able to comment please?

http://www.rainbowinternet.net/shops/enigmastore/catalogue/c9/p12

Comments

  • leonlikestrees
    leonlikestrees Posts: 528
    nope, but they sure look nice.

    I wonder if they're up to MTBing
  • rjsmith
    rjsmith Posts: 1,924
    It does say for road or MTB but it'd be nice to have someone say they've used them etc.
  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    rjsmith wrote:
    Enigma titanium quick releases - Any good?



    As per the title really. They seem stupidly light but £50 is a lot to pay of they don't hold the wheel well or are a pain to use.

    Has anybody used them and able to comment please?

    http://www.rainbowinternet.net/shops/enigmastore/catalogue/c9/p12

    I don't know what make they were, but someone I know had terrible problems with his Ti quick release not holding the rear wheel of his Van Nicholas properly. He gave up on it eventually. I know someone else who had problems with cheap Decathlon QRs. I'd rather stick to something tried & tested and a sensible price like Shimano.
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    Those QRs look very familiar, though I can't quite put my finger on it. Like a lot of components on that webpage, I reckon its made by a third-party and badged up for Enigma. Other than the photo, I haven't seen a pair but they look very skimpy around the cam. They might be ok for a bike with vertical rear drop-outs but I'd doubt that they'd hold much torque on horizontal drop-outs.

    As Colin J pointed out, theres a lot to be said for bog-standard Shimano or Campag QRs. If you do want to flash a bit of cash, I find the Mavic QRs very good though not all that light.

    I'll try to recall what othe brand uses those QRs - you may be able to do a search on that.
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    ColinJ wrote:
    I don't know what make they were, but someone I know had terrible problems with his Ti quick release
    Check for reviews of the Enigma ones. Because titanium is a very elastic metal and when you tighten the QR cam, it can stretch the skewer a lot, meaning either you don't get much of a lock, or the cam action has to be large.

    For the same amount of money, you can buy Tune AC14 skewers, they have good reviews and are easy to operate.
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    Most of the Enigma stuff is generic OEM branded product from Taiwan. There was a fad for ti QR's a few years ago, but then they realised that the elstic properties of ti meant it couldn't clamp the wheel tight enough - a problem if you're running disc brakes or horizontal drop-outs. I find that most of the external cam design QR's like these nothing like as positive as the well-proven designs from the likes of Campag, Shimano, Mavic etc - they are also far more prone to clogging up and sticking too.
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • aracer
    aracer Posts: 1,649
    According to http://weightweenies.starbike.com/phpBB ... hp?t=26402 (and various other posts on that site) they are M2Racer skewers.
  • passout
    passout Posts: 4,425
    Shimano would probably work better, so no.
    'Happiness serves hardly any other purpose than to make unhappiness possible' Marcel Proust.
  • aracer
    aracer Posts: 1,649
    passout wrote:
    Shimano would probably work better, so no.

    In reply to "are they any good"? Not the most helpful comment - yes Shimano probably are functionally better, but they're also 3 times the weight! The question is are these good enough to hold your wheels in and easy enough to use, not whether they're better than Shimano.
  • rjsmith
    rjsmith Posts: 1,924
    Some good points raised - thanks.
  • snipz
    snipz Posts: 85
    Have been using M2Racer Skewers for 18 months without a hitch, and I'm a big sprinter type!
  • mrushton
    mrushton Posts: 5,182
    snipz wrote:
    Have been using M2Racer Skewers for 18 months without a hitch, and I'm a big sprinter type!

    Hope skewers are made to their usual high standards and retail about £25 a pair and are in pretty colours
    M.Rushton
  • carbonbasedlifeform
    carbonbasedlifeform Posts: 20
    I've got some and they work well. They are absurdly light to hold as well, but that is really only for the fetishists. They look great and (for me) have functioned flawlessly.

    Notwithstanding the comment about about rebadged product (almost any small bike brand would/should do this - the key is that they source components carefully), I would also recommend Enigma's bottle cage. This has the best entry/release (and somehow the best grip) on any bottle cage I've used by some distance, regardless of weight.
  • aracer
    aracer Posts: 1,649
    mrushton wrote:
    Hope skewers are made to their usual high standards and retail about £25 a pair and are in pretty colours

    Try searching some MTB forums for comments on them - or even try asking the question there :twisted:

    (to save you the trouble, I searched and found a couple of examples http://chainreactioncycles.com/Reviews.aspx?ModelID=489 http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/r ... &t=3136115 )

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