How good is this the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit Mini D-Lock?

dazzawazza

I'm a big fan of mini D-locks. I currently have an Onguard Pitbull mini D-lock for my commuter, which I'm very happy with. However I don't feel as confident when using it to lock my road bike.
How good is the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit Mini Lock? I've seen videos of the equivalent chains rendered useless with bolt croppers, but nothing against this lock:

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=18394[/Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit Mini Lock]

mazcp

All the Kryptonite locks are good in my opinion, as are the ABUS.

To a potential thief, with lock names like Pitbull and Fahgettaboudit, it'd be like a red rag to a bull, and he's bound to have a go at it.
Yeah...I much prefer the ABUS come-and-have-a-go-if-you-think-yer-ard-enuff -Lock.

graham_g

I've got one - noone has tried to thieve the bike yet (it's not that desirable anyway). It weighs a good 2kg but the shackle is really thick so I feel confident about it. Cheapest place online is Sunderson Security really quick free delivery.

dazzawazza

Are there any documented / video tests made on it?

mailmannz

mazcp wrote:

All the Kryptonite locks are good in my opinion, as are the ABUS.

To a potential thief, with lock names like Pitbull and Fahgettaboudit, it'd be like a red rag to a bull, and he's bound to have a go at it.
Yeah...I much prefer the ABUS come-and-have-a-go-if-you-think-yer-ard-enuff -Lock.

On the other, more likely, hand if you have a quality bike lock made by kryptonite etc I doubt thieves really are going to waste their time trying to break those locks when it would be much easier to break a £10 no name lock on the bike next to yours.

Mailman

Jacomus-rides-Gen

Its a toss up isn't it really.

I have the Faggettaboutit chain and shackle, which i combine with a Magnum D-lock, and was mightily disheartened by its test results - but on the other hand, it was a 48inch pair of blot croppers that demolished it so fast. In my view anyone carrying such an serious piece of kit is going to steal my bike no matter what I lock it up with.

The biggest reason for using the Faggettaboutit personally - is that it is the top listed lock in my insurance requirements.

alfablue

I tghink the Faggeddabout it did well in the C Plus test, as did the Abus Granit X Plus (the latter has a good design feaature as it's square section shackle can't be rotated so it requires 2 cuts). The Kryptonite lasted a few seconds longer, but the Abus, having a thinner shackle, is slightly lighter. Kryptonite have a theft guarantee. I think the Fagettaboutit chain is the "weak link" and this was cropped with the 48" croppers.

Note that in neither range are they all good - the cheaper models offer little security.

delcol

http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12539962

i posted this last week,.

not exactly for the commuter unless your like arnie or an wwe wrestler but should keep your pride and joy safe and sound..

mtb.boy

I have a fahgettaboutit Chain and the mini fahgettaboutit d-lock.

The d-lock is really heavy (about 2kg) and seems to be very strong. Not had it long but am very happy with it. I also got mine from Saunderson Security (costs about £56 including the postage). Captain Cropper says he can break it, but has not posted the videos because the police say he is ahead of the criminals. He says to keep the lock full so that objects the size of a softball can not be placed inside it. I think the bolt croppers will not cut this as it is 18mm thick - bolt croppers only get a hold of items up to about 14mm.

http://www.saundersonsecurity.co.uk/aca ... Locks.html

The Abus Granit 59 sounds very good. But it costs about £140.

Thing is - Every lock can be broke. It just depends how badly the thief wants your bike. If he wants it (and feels brave) he will turn up with a angle grinder. Put your bike in a busy area so hopefully someone will report any suspicious activity to the police.

delcol

bolt croppers only get a hold of items up to about 14mm.

look at this link watch the videos and be shocked.

http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=19


pay attention to the imobiliesr iv.

mtb.boy

See - the bolt croppers can not grip things 18mm thick

dazzawazza

mtb.boy wrote:

See - the bolt croppers can not grip things 18mm thick

If bolt croppers can't grip the 18mm mini D-lock, how else would a thief cut / break the lock? I suspect an electric cutting device could be used. Anything else?

graham_g

dazzawazza wrote:

mtb.boy wrote:

See - the bolt croppers can not grip things 18mm thick

If bolt croppers can't grip the 18mm mini D-lock, how else would a thief cut / break the lock? I suspect an electric cutting device could be used. Anything else?

A small car type jack to prize apart the arms of the shackle bit - that's why mini u-locks are considered a bit more secure as there is far less room in which to fit a jacking device.

dazzawazza

It looks to me that the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit Mini D-Lock is one of the better locks on the market of secured properly.

1)Its small so is easy to carry in a small rucksack etc (if you don't mind the 2KG weight).
2)Its size makes it difficult to jack apart.
3)Its difficult to cut without power tools.
4)It's difficult or impossible to cut with bolt croppers
5)From my experience with mini D-locks it's very rare that I have a problem finding something secure to lock it against. Especially with locking skewers on the wheels.
6)It's a bit pricey at £56, but way cheaper than a new bike after the old one is stolen.

Anyone disagree before I buy one?

alfablue

Agree with the above, poss consider the Abus Granit X Plus 54 as probably as secure but about 600g lighter. Similar price at Wiggle. I am torn between the two for my next lock purchase - one slight issue, I think Captaincropper criticised the plastic internals on the Kryptonite - don't know how true that is or what the implications are. On the other hand, Kryptonite have a theft guarantee if the lock gets broken.