Raleigh Titaniam 405 Frame

toniopolio

Just got a deal on ebay to 'upgrade' my Trek 1000. Though £48 for a Ti frame was a deal, but can I find any info on the Raliegh 405 frame - not a snippet! Since I am on a real budget, I though it was this or nothing and went for the gamble. Does anyone out there know weather I got suckered or lucky?

reyserf

toniopolio wrote:

Just got a deal on ebay to 'upgrade' my Trek 1000. Though £48 for a Ti frame was a deal, but can I find any info on the Raliegh 405 frame - not a snippet! Since I am on a real budget, I though it was this or nothing and went for the gamble. Does anyone out there know weather I got suckered or lucky?

Raleigh were once owned by Tube Investments(TI)... :?:

No idea otherwise.

reyserf

thebikeliker

I'd check whether the seller knows it is titanium or if he is assuming it is because it has Ti as part of its name.

As the previous reply says Raleigh used Ti in their name because they were owned by Tube Investments not necessarily because they were Titanium.

Cr-Mo is Chrome Molybdenum and was used in the name of mu mountain bike which didn't have any Titanium in it.

All the above information is based on what I remember and not because I am in any way an expert. Apologies if I have put anything that is wrong.

I'd definitely confirm that it is titanium before parting with any money.

Alan the bikeliker

JustRidecp

thebikeliker wrote:

Cr-Mo is Chrome Molybdenum and was used in the name of mu mountain bike which didn't have any Titanium in it.

Cr-Mo is a low alloy steel therefore doesn't contain any titanium.

Re: the Ti frame. I'd make sure with the seller that its actually a titanium frame. Unfortunately with eBay if its too good to be true it usually isn't.

acorn_user

Yes, but...
Raleigh were world leaders in Titanium frames. There are quite a few Raleigh Ti frames around, so there is a good chance that it really is Ti rather than TI, except that the price is very low... If it were TI, it would most likely have a Reynolds steel sticker too. Reynolds also make Ti, but it should be clear. From what I've seen, numbers rather than a names does suggest titanium. Have you got a link?

gundersen

also remember that raleigh used to make frames of steel and titanium glued together. Either they made frames with 3 titanium tubes or sometimes 5 tubes.

alfablue

come on Tonio - send us the link and more details!

jimmythecuckoo

That Raleigh bike on the homepage looks nice. I might be tempted by that.

alan_sherman

I had a dyna tech 405 (I think) that was multi coloured on the 3 main tubes and a deep purple on forks and chainstays. It was a good bike, with steel tubes bonded into alloy lugs (that was the Dyna Tech technoogy). Raleigh also did other dyna tech frames with Titanium tubing further up the range.

if you have the same frame as I used to have it would make a fantastic fixie as it had horizontal dropouts! The only reason i don't have mine any more is due to a droped chain from the chainring taking a chunk out of the chainstay which progressed to a terminal crack.

itisaboutthebike

No it isn't a Ti frame. Bonded Cr-Mo I'm afaid.

Pretty reasonable training frame - altho I'm not sure the bonded lugs area as durable as a normal lugged bike.

SDP

i had a dynatech 405 ..3 main tubes were a Ti/alloy ( metal matrix they called it ) ..bonded into lugs....sort of a purple colour ..

it was a really cheap deal as bike shop couldnt move them ...had sachs& modolo bits on it ..used it for training for 18 months or so

used it for 5000miles & then the bottom bracket "fell out " ....lucklily a was going slowly at teh time approaching traffic lights ! ..raleigh replaced it sweet as a nut but i lost faith & flogged it in the comic

toniopolio

Many thanks for your interest and help. The bike was badly advertised so I assumed the seller had little idea of what he had, and/or the bike was old (and probably poor quality to boot). Anyhows, there was very little info to go on, but thanks to your comments, I realise now why the seller had it down as 'TI' not 'Ti', so methinks the seller made an incorrect assumtion - it is a logo rather than material. Oh well, the answer to my original question is 'suckered'. Ask me anything about MTB, but as far as roady stuff goes, everyday is a school day!!

Sell the car & ride!

acorn_user

Still, if it's ridable for 45 pounds, you've still done ok! Even it is not made of unobtanium... I had a bonded aluminium bike that was a real joy to ride.. wonder how bonded steel is?

Down the Road

Shame you wasted £45 on a frame. to upgrade your Trek. Would have spent it better on putting That money towardss some better wheels. This old frame is of a lower quality than your current Trek frame.

passout

Ride it a while before deciding what to do about it - it may work out well,