Italian TT champ positive for EPO
Luca Ascani tested positive for EPO at the Italian nationals, which he won. So Marco Pinoti from T-Mobile-Pharmacy will be the new Italian TT champ.
Luca is 24 - Doesn't he know the rules about only older riders doping?
Luca is 24 - Doesn't he know the rules about only older riders doping?
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
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iainf72 wrote:Luca Ascani tested positive for EPO at the Italian nationals, which he won. So Marco Pinoti from T-Mobile-Pharmacy will be the new Italian TT champ.
Luca is 24 - Doesn't he know the rules about only older riders doping?
Iain,
have you not been paying any attention over the past few days? Only riders under 30 whose names start with Geraint, Mark etc. don't dope. All foreigners are under suspicion regardless of age. In fact, they should be banned from the sport from the moment of conception.
I see Luca has been a teammate of Filippo Simeoni for a few years now.'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'0 -
Ah. He was a rider on a small team that wasn't very good, so he doped and cheated to be what he wasn't(!)(!)(!)0
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Another isolated rotten apple I say!
Good thing Pat McQuaid has assured me that the rest of the barrel is premium grade A fresh.
For what its worth, despite the fact that he's foreign, over 25 and riding for the t'mobile pharmacy I think that Pinotti is one of the good guys* and so I'm happy for him.
*Before you start Iain, I have special powers to divine these things.It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
Timoid. wrote:
*Before you start Iain, I have special powers to divine these things.
I see your divining powers and raise you
He's Italian
Road for Saunier last year
Wore a long sleeved jersey for the TT (to hide the needle marks)
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iainf72 wrote:Timoid. wrote:
*Before you start Iain, I have special powers to divine these things.
I see your divining powers and raise you
He's Italian
Road for Saunier last year
Wore a long sleeved jersey for the TT (to hide the needle marks)
:P
I reckon Timoid's right - I remember this letter to cyclingnews last year (first letter). Not really something a doper would do.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/letters.php?id=letters/2006/07-31letters1Twitter: @RichN950 -
Sadly juniors and Espoirs are on the gear in Italy, as are Gran Fondo riders. Have you seen any racing over there, even their "amateur" racing is scary - huge fields, mega competitive & very fast!0
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RichN95 wrote:I reckon Timoid's right - I remember this letter to cyclingnews last year (first letter). Not really something a doper would do.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/letters.php?id=letters/2006/07-31letters1
He's not obviously dodgy but we just don't know.
As he said, he can't prove it. His letter is just saying "I've not failed any tests" and taking it to the extreme.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
That's something of a sweeping statement isn't it? I've ridden both Gran Fondos and road races in Italy and, unless someone administered it to me via some of the freebies given out as part of the entry, haven't indulged in EPO.mm1 wrote:Sadly juniors and Espoirs are on the gear in Italy, as are Gran Fondo riders. Have you seen any racing over there, even their "amateur" racing is scary - huge fields, mega competitive & very fast!
Also, why is having large, competitive fields in races 'scary'? In any other sport they'd be celebrating the fact that they get mass participation. :roll:0 -
The logical conclusion then is either a) everyone dopes or b) no-one dopes?iainf72 wrote:He's not obviously dodgy but we just don't know.
As he said, he can't prove it. His letter is just saying "I've not failed any tests" and taking it to the extreme.
Surely it's somewhere in between a and b?0 -
"andyp wrote:The logical conclusion then is either a) everyone dopes or b) no-one dopes?
Surely it's somewhere in between a and b?
It is. But all these random "He's got a Paul Weller haircut so he's clean" type theories don't really amount to much. It's a leap of faith believing someone is clean and we're seen examples of where people are terribly let down by someone they've never met.
A few months ago when T-Mobile got a 1-2 in Gent-W, you said something about it being the first race of the season you could be sure the first 2 places were occupied by clean riders, based on their team. Does Sinkewitz shake some of this conviction for you?Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
If a rider had a Paul Weller haircut I'd think he must be on some kind of drugs.iainf72 wrote:It is. But all these random "He's got a Paul Weller haircut so he's clean" type theories don't really amount to much. It's a leap of faith believing someone is clean and we're seen examples of where people are terribly let down by someone they've never met.
A few months ago when T-Mobile got a 1-2 in Gent-W, you said something about it being the first race of the season you could be sure the first 2 places were occupied by clean riders, based on their team. Does Sinkewitz shake some of this conviction for you?
Does the Sinkewitz affair shake my conviction? Of course, but the fact that T-Mobile kept Honchar, who subsequently demonstrated the folly of this himself, concerned me more. We can never know 100% who is clean and who isn't, especially with rampant abuse of TUEs and a banned list that has little coherence. However, for the future of the sport I applaud all the teams who are trying to set an example and encourage the riders not to dope. That has to be the way forward.0 -
ricadus wrote:
Hi there.
You could of course use the old trick of injecting into a vein in your scrotum to hide the track marks. Not that there's any health risk involved here...
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andrewgturnbull wrote:
I remember reading a while ago that sometimes riders come down to see the vampires and stuff with blood dripping out of their arm.
"Morning Ted, I've already got a hole on the go - Can you use that one?"Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Please please pollllleeeaaaaase! You Brits aren't going to become like the French, are you? "only our riders are clean" bull-f'ing-shit! "If we don't win, it's because of two-speed cycling". I hope it's all for shits and giggles, because if you get serious on that point, as the Frenchies did, you'll become just as much a pain in the ass as they can be.
It's OK for your country not to win bike races. I'm from Canada. We haven't won a thing since Steve Bauer retired. Our pro riders are clean too: we simply don't have any!0 -
drenkrom wrote:
It's OK for your country not to win bike races. I'm from Canada. We haven't won a thing since Steve Bauer retired. Our pro riders are clean too: we simply don't have any!
Aside from Michael Barry
Brits do win quite a lot of races. Cav has had more than 5 this year, Jeremy Hunt, David Millar - All won races.
Moaning is a british hobby.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Finding comfort in even the most shitty situation is a Canadian hobby. 0
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I was about to mention Ryder Hesjedal, but didn't know what had happened to him after Phonak. So I checked and found out that he's riding for Health Net in the pro cycling wilderness that is North America. Never mind... 0
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Ryder definitely earned a contract in Europe for this year, but it never materialized. He's been quite dominant on the US scene this year. Another is Charles Dionne, who was unceremoniously dropped by Saunier Duval after they enrolled him in a few races. There is quite a gap between the US and European scenes. Except for criteriums. The Euros get thrashed in those over here.
I'd forgotten about Barry, though. How could I? Such a nice guy.0
