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Just been gobbed on

flattythehurdlerflattythehurdler Posts: 2,314
edited August 2007 in Commuting chat
Was cycling in the opposite direction to 6 scrotes on the fallowfield loop in openshaw in manchester age range 12 to 18 i WOULD SAY. oNE OF THEM GOBBED ON ME AND ANOTHER THREW SOMETHING. i SAW RED COMPLETELY AND TURNED ROUND AND CHASED THEM DOWN AT WHICH POINT i WAS SURROUNDED BY 6 menacing little bastards. I threatened them all with my bike lock at which point they turned and ran.
Cowardly cowardly cowardly little [email protected] I'm [email protected] emigrating :evil: :evil: :evil:
Dan
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  • jongooliganjongooligan Posts: 223
    You've got my sympathy Flatty.

    A similar thing happened to me near Stanley in Co. Durham. I lost my rag and ended up chasing a bunch of kids who'd spat on me and also thrown a bottle. I suddenly realised that I could end up in hospital or in court on a charge of assault so I backed off. Every time I read something similar it makes me angry and I wish I'd kicked their arses for them.
  • jjojjasjjojjas Posts: 346
    Not worth the hassle...but easier said than done, I have been known to restrain myself once or twice....

    ps. No point emigrating, you get kids everywhere :wink:
    Jas
    it looks a bit steep to me.....
  • jedsterjedster Posts: 2,004
    Yesterday, a car went past me in the opposite direction and I got sprayed with something - too much for gob, think it was probably a swig of water from a bottle. Didn't see the driver and the car was round the bend before i got close to getting a license number.

    Feckin' annoying.

    I wouldn't be chasing down groups of teenagers - could easily be carrying knives.

    J
  • EurostarEurostar Posts: 1,806
    I wonder if this stuff would work? By all accounts it's not nice http://www.liquidass.com/ And you can buy it from amazon.com!

    But it must be hard to spray it without covering yourself in it, or getting drips on your jersey when you put it back in your pocket

    The American and Israeli armies have developed mega-strength stink bombs for crowd control. Imagine lobbing one into a chavmobile... :twisted:
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    <h6>What\'s the point of going out? We\'re just going to end up back here anyway</h6>
  • GambatteGambatte Posts: 1,453
    What I posted online a couple of months ago, on WhatMTB and STW:

    Been out on my 'new to me' road bike. Done about 15miles and on the last bit before home, a nice long downhill. I'm got it upto about 30mph and theres a car coming in the opposite direction at about 40+.

    All of a sudden theres an impact low on my left shoulder. I figure somethings been thrown from the car so I stop and get off the bike. Its an egg. 30mph + 40mph means a 70mph impact, and considering the fact that I'm leant forwards with my hands down on the lower parts of the bars, this has snuck just under my chin prior to impact.

    So within a few seconds of stopping the phones out and its a 999 call. Yeah its only an egg. But its conceivable that with a slightly different shot I could now be in hospital or worse. Scarier when you consider I'm the sole income for a wife and 2 kids under 6.

    In a way its lucky that within a minute of being connected to an operator the car passes again to gloat. Beige/dull gold, R956...., prat with a blue trackie top with stripes hanging out of the passenger window.

    So if they're daft enough to get stopped theres a record of an assault. Theres a photo of a red swollen area of skin and a shot of the cycle top still with albumen and shell attached.

    Right now I'm happy that I've done everything I can to record and report it.

    I just have to contemplate the fact that not only do we have to ensure our skills on the road, worry about the lack of concentration and skills by other road users. We also have to deal with idiots trying to deliberately injure us


    Not posted anything else about this since, but this thread reminded me. I got a phone call about 2 weeks ago. Coppers have got someone, caught him doing a similar driveby egging and he’s confessed to several more. Got told he was going to court and they were using the egging as evidence for driving convictions, cant remember if it was ‘due care’ or something similar.

    Whichever, it was more of a result than I expected.
  • I would rather have had a brick (as has happened before) than be spat on. My main thought as I confronted them was that if I levelled one or more of them, it would have been me who was arrested and fired. But what can you do? I have been ordered by my wife not to use that route for a few days but why should I let the little [email protected] drive me off my route?
    Dan
  • rampaxrampax Posts: 139
    I got spat on just near there too. For ages I was contemplating going back, but what HONESTLY am I going to do against a couple of lads, as I would have to demount to fight, leaving the bike (with belongings) open to theft by his mates.
    It still REALLY grates me thinking about him though. I want to get him back.
    The A6 Hazel Grove - "Always the worst part of any ride".
  • One of these might help - a little practice and may not even have to get off bike ! :D

    http://www.whipstore.com/allcopyright/B ... llwhip.jpg
  • The BIG GTThe BIG GT Posts: 655
    I know what you mean, I had one teenager from a small group aim a chest-high kick at me as I rode past on my way home, last year.

    They laughed until I pulled up and walked toward them to question them on their actions. I was not openly aggressive but very firm and knew that if I started I'd be the one either stabbed or nicked, and I got the impression they were waiting for me to wade in first for the latter reason. I kept very calm and just asked why they did it, what was going though their heads.

    I really wanted them to start but, as the above poster said, they are usually cowardly little sh1ts who lose the bravado once they realise their 'easy prey' might be capable of beating the censored out of them.

    In a way, I really wished the main one would start as he was unbelievably gobby and threatening and I wanted to be able to legally flatten him. He did let slip that the reason he did it was because he "thought you were a geeky cyclist who'd just run away" until he realised that made him sound like the coward he was, when he quickly added "but I'd'a done it, anyway!".

    By the time I gave up and left he looked a tiny bit embarrassed as his mates had all started pleading with me to leave him alone.

    I can see why people want to leave the country. It's not 'just kids', it's violent, selfish, destructive and aggressive behaviour that just happens to be being carried out by young people. You just don't get the same type and level of behaviour in other countries with absolutely no respect for any rules, people or property.

    And, as it's a result of similarly-minded, non-caring, pass-the-buck parents not giving a censored what their 'little darlings' get up to, it's not going to get any better.

    In fact these same wasters are going to spawn the next generation so what hope do we have?

    Answer: castrate them or leave the country! :twisted:

    Rant over.
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    Now living happily at http://www.uk-mtb.com !!
  • AidocpAidocp Posts: 868
    I've had eggs thrown at me a few times but none have ever hit, I had a firework (rocket)aimed at me but this was eay to advoid; ive never been gobbed at touch wood, its sound disgusting, yuck
  • I've just started riding again recently and on my second time out I rode past a group of local chavs and caught one of them in the corner of my eye lifting up a rock on one foot, who then kickied it towards me, narrowly missing my head.

    Perhaps it's an evolutionary instinct handed down through the ages; that a person mounted on a moving object should be subject to abuse/violence? A lot of wars in ancient times were fought on horseback after all...
  • fossyantfossyant Posts: 2,549
    Sign of the times, commuting or training - some right little ********* out there - my kids won't be like that when they get to that age (both primary age) I'll tell you !

    There does seem to be a big gap somewhere with respect for others ?
  • PorgyPorgy Posts: 4,558
    I've had eggs thrown at me; a coffee poured on me from a four storey building; fireworks aimed at me; and some little censored kicked my back wheel hard enough to cause damage when I cycled past him in victoria Park. I frightened the sh*t out of him - he nicked his mate's bike and cycled off when I threatened to 'kill' him.
  • mazcpmazcp Posts: 953
    One simple way to get your own back (as I've done before) is if you catch up with them in a queue of traffic for example, open the boot of their car or maybe a rear door if there's no-one sitting in the back. Then speed off. They'll have the inconvenience of having to get out of their car to close the boot/door.

    Make sure conditions are favourable before pulling ths stunt.
  • TeuchterTeuchter Posts: 102
    mazcp wrote:
    One simple way to get your own back (as I've done before) is if you catch up with them in a queue of traffic for example, open the boot of their car or maybe a rear door if there's no-one sitting in the back. Then speed off. They'll have the inconvenience of having to get out of their car to close the boot/door.

    Make sure conditions are favourable before pulling ths stunt.
    That's a good one - I like it! I've knocked off a few wing mirrors in my time motorbike riding but not done it yet on the pushbike - I did punch the side of a taxi that passed within a few inches of my elbow last week though. He stared at me in his mirror and sped off. Really wanted him to stop too :(

    Opening a door as you filter past is a new one to try the inevitable next time! :D
  • mazcpmazcp Posts: 953
    Aye, Teuchter. It gets the old adrenaline flowing too...which helps with the speed of your 'escape'.
  • PorgyPorgy Posts: 4,558
    When I lived in Colliers wood, nearly all my neighbours parked on the pavement. It left very little space for peds to squeeze by. In doing so I used to twang the mirrors as went past. Not all of them survived. I reckon I was in the habit of breaking off about three or four a day.

    Quite often it was the same ones over and over that had been glued back on.

    Stupid censored never learned. And I never got caught.
  • mazcpmazcp Posts: 953
    Porgy...you shouldn't be cycling on the pavement.
  • jedsterjedster Posts: 2,004
    porgy,

    you absolute hero - well done! Certainly better behaviour than having the balls to actually speak to your neighbours to ask them to be more considerate.

    How old were you at the time?

    J
  • I would rather have had a brick (as has happened before) than be spat on. My main thought as I confronted them was that if I levelled one or more of them, it would have been me who was arrested and fired. But what can you do? I have been ordered by my wife not to use that route for a few days but why should I let the little [email protected] drive me off my route?

    Chances are, that if they made a counter allegation, you would be arrested- this doesn't mean that you would get charged though. Most police officers have common sense and a victim first attitude.

    It's all about impact factors - you were assualted first (by spit) and there was a large group.

    However the chasing after them bit is the area that would cause problems.
    Too enthusiastic about biking for my friends...want to ride somewhere in the SE? TELL ME!!! [email protected] - and yes they can!
  • I realised that, but seriously what would you do? Be gobbed on and do nothing? As I say if it was a brick I probably wouldn't have bothered.
    Dan
  • PorgyPorgy Posts: 4,558
    mazcp wrote:
    Porgy...you shouldn't be cycling on the pavement.

    er...I wasn't cycling, I was walking
  • mazcpmazcp Posts: 953
    I realised that, but seriously what would you do? Be gobbed on and do nothing? As I say if it was a brick I probably wouldn't have bothered.
    Try the old 'open the boot and leg it' trick...works a treat...
  • PorgyPorgy Posts: 4,558
    jedster wrote:
    porgy,

    you absolute hero - well done! Certainly better behaviour than having the balls to actually speak to your neighbours to ask them to be more considerate.

    How old were you at the time?

    J

    This was after I'd tried talking to the igorant f****** and I'd tried walking in the road as well - they didn;t like that very much either. WTF is a pedestrian supposed to do when the pavement is blocked?
  • mazcpmazcp Posts: 953
    Porgy wrote:
    jedster wrote:
    porgy,

    you absolute hero - well done! Certainly better behaviour than having the balls to actually speak to your neighbours to ask them to be more considerate.

    How old were you at the time?

    J

    This was after I'd tried talking to the igorant f****** and I'd tried walking in the road as well - they didn;t like that very much either. WTF is a pedestrian supposed to do when the pavement is blocked?
    Er...report it, perhaps?
  • PorgyPorgy Posts: 4,558
    mazcp wrote:
    Porgy wrote:
    jedster wrote:
    porgy,

    you absolute hero - well done! Certainly better behaviour than having the balls to actually speak to your neighbours to ask them to be more considerate.

    How old were you at the time?

    J

    This was after I'd tried talking to the igorant f****** and I'd tried walking in the road as well - they didn;t like that very much either. WTF is a pedestrian supposed to do when the pavement is blocked?
    Er...report it, perhaps?

    Who to?!? :?

    I guess I overestimated how busy the Met Police are - in between the shootings and the violent crime etc. they certainly would have taken time to deal with some pavement parkers!

    Anyway I tried that. And I wrote to the council. And I put notes on the cars. Blah blah blah. Anything else I forgot to mention?
  • GambatteGambatte Posts: 1,453
    I did the report to police/council bit.

    Althpough our councils taken responsibility for enforcing yellow lines, the police are still empowered to enforce obstructions. They reckon they turn a blind eye to 2wheels on the pavement, so long as a kids double buggy can still be negotiated past.

    Plenty of £30 tickets handed out by the coppers. Took a kid getting knocked down to get the council to attend, but when they did the tickets were £60 a time.
  • Hi all, new to the forums, hope you don't mind me posting. :lol:

    I've only been commuting for a couple of weeks (gone from being a keen indoor cyclist to brave the great outdoors), and on my first trip to work I was on the cycle path with lots of cyclists going by, and I could hear a rider behind me. I was thinking to myself, 'why aren't you going by - there's plenty of room?' and when there was nobody else around, he cycled by and squeezed my bum on the way.

    I was stunned, and nearly tipped off my bike. I was really scared too, and wasn't sure what to do. I stopped by some chaps working in the road, and the guy kept looking back, I think to see what I was going to do. I just paused until he was well out of sight and cycled on to work. I told my colleague who told me not to give up cycling for one idiot, and got me a really loud attack alarm to attach to the front of my cycle rucksack- bless.

    I haven't had any probs since, but traded in my nice lycra for baggies for a week as I thought I might have been 'asking for trouble'. This week I thought I should wear what I like on my bike and put my lycra shorts back on.

    I guess it's sad but there's bad cyclists out there too as well as nasty pedestrians and drivers. :cry:
  • GambatteGambatte Posts: 1,453
    Its sexual assault, report it to the police.

    Probably they won't be able to do anything, but if anything like it happens again the police have history of a pattern.
  • mazcpmazcp Posts: 953
    Porgy wrote:
    ...Anyway I tried that. And I wrote to the council. And I put notes on the cars. Blah blah blah. Anything else I forgot to mention?
    Yes, you forgot to mention the outcome of each of these lines of enquiries...before smashing in wing mirrors.
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