Iban Mayo - positive
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Ah well he was crap anyway, kick him out for good. Maybe this will give him an excuse to retire. I'm sick of these positive tests in some ways, in others I'm glad to see these guys finally getting found out.0
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oh dear. Millar speaks out against dopers. Mayo dopes. Millar spends a stage winding it up at the front of the peloton for Mayo. Mayo gets dropped anyway. ironic? darkly comic? or just plain depressing.
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FFS.
Where is the "seriously pissed off" emoticon. I guess our David is lucky to have got to Paris.
It's getting more and more difficult to see the upside of these postives, but they are being caught........
BTW, here's a source....
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id= ... /jul31news0 -
My chances of riding next year get better by the day, so it isnt all bad...
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runners batted in :roll: I think !MEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW0
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Bart Puss wrote:runners batted in :roll: I think !
ha ha thanks!
Any ideas how the numbers are calculated? does a 0.3467 for a batsman mean he hits about a third of the balls he faces?
Oh and Mayo deserves to rot, the cheating barsteward.0 -
This sudden ability to actually catch people with dope tests is a bit worrying.
WTF have they been doing for years now?
Oh, I forgot, the ProTour.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Runs Batted In; the english-mangling way of saying batting average
3 in a week might well be good for baseball!!getting there......0 -
If EPO is undetectable after 4 days and its effects peak after 3 weeks, WTF was he doing?0
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cannonfodder wrote:If EPO is undetectable after 4 days and its effects peak after 3 weeks, WTF was he doing?
Microdosing.
And getting it wrong...Would be my guess.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Well microdosing certainly a possible explanation though very small doses quickly go below the limit of detection?
Perhaps the testers came calling at lunchtime rather than early morning so they could have a "lie in" and caught them out?
Or he got some blood back but forgot he'd had EPO the previous day?
It seems the lab has got much better at doing the assay and much more confident in the results.getting there......0 -
RBI - Runs Batted In, the number of players that score thanks to your swing of the bat.
Mayo is an idiot.0 -
Mayo is no loss. Never really amounted to much, and (easy to say now!!!) I always had suspicions.
At this stage, I for one at glad that there are so many positives, it shows that are finally catching these guys, lets face it, this hasn't just started this year and last.
One thing I would question, is all these other pros who go on about cleaning up the sport but don't ever name names.
David Millar is now apperntly the white Knight of the cycling world. I cannot believe that he did not have his doubts. I mean FFS, he was on the bloddy stuff himself, he knows the changes that occur.
I have no experience of drugs, but I know when my riding buddies are on or off form. I can almost tell on a given day which guys will be where. Fair enough, I can't tell who will win a race, but then they are against others. When training with each other I know. I would defo think twice if someone who was brilliant one day was muck the next or vice versa.
Can these guys really expect us to believe that they had no inkling? If this problem is really going to sloved, as opposed to a PR battle, we need honesty.0 -
I'm surprised people are surprised. If this Tour has taught us anything it is the fact that riders seem to think they are untouchable and won't get caught.
Mayo's got previous and it is increasingly clear that the majority of teams still doping are either Spanish or have some connection back to the ONCE squad. Allegedly.
Two year ban at a minimum and another year's salary to the UCI's lunch, err sorry I mean anti-doping crusade fund. They must be stunned at the sudden outbreak of positive tests!0 -
I'm looking forward to the day when Millar starts naming names. he clearly looks like a man who is struggling to contain himself.0
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I think he may wait until he retires to spill to be honest, but I think the list will be lengthy.0
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I'm concerned by Millar. He denounces doping but struggles to name names, he borders on the sanctimonious. Do BC have a stained glass image of him at their HQ? Does his helmet fit over the halo?
That said, it's hard, near impossible, to speak out fully. I've met him a few times, even raced against him a long time ago and liked the guy. A lot more interesting that the average pro and at least he's more open than most pros.
No surprise by Mayo. After all, Millar confessed he bought his EPO from the Euskatel team doctor. As I said above, let's see what the Basque has to say for himself, I'm concerned we'll get another lame excuse.0 -
Well this must surely make Piepoli's great Giro look suspicious now. :P0
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Millar's stance against drugs seems strange against the backdrop of suspicion that has fallen on a number of his team mates. Not that I doubt his stance - I just find it strange he rides for a team with a number of riders who have been suspected of dodgy practices and who do not seem to have done much to allay these suspicions.0
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No wonder Millar can't leave S-D quickly enough!
If there were two riders on the Tour I thought were clean, they were Mayo and Valverde. Not because of any belief in their sporting ethics but that they were going so crap compared to previous years.'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'0 -
I guess Millar is biding his time until he gets onboard Slipstream....
He is probably to gracious to speak out against a team that gave him a contract when other teams wanted to ignore him...
As for Mayo....His win on the Alpe in 2003 captivated me, always had a soft spot for him since....even when Millar named Jesus Losa as his EPO source and the Basque's sudden inability to climb anymore....
I hope he has the cojones to confess....
(But given that Euskatel riders have fielded the most original and creative excuses to date -I am sure we are in for a whopper!!!)0 -
My guess is that there will be no names named. There probably isn't sufficient proof and Millar would find himself looking down the barrel of a libel lawsuit. He'd also find it impossible to race anymore. IF Millar has names, it think it would be better for him to talk to WADA, UCI, ASO or whoever NOW and not hold on to this information until he retires and it becomes irrelevant.'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'0
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Here's a little experiment Kleber - when you go to work tomorrow, stand up on a desk and shout across the room to the boss that you caught so-and-so in accounts pinching stuff out of the storeroom, someone else fiddling the petty cash and so on...............then sit back down at your desk and try and carry on a normal days work.Kléber wrote:I'm concerned by Millar. He denounces doping but struggles to name names, he borders on the sanctimonious.
He keeps quiet because making enemies in the peloton in the current climate would mean he may as well quit. Every break he got in would be chased down. He would probably never win another pro race.
He said in the ProCycling interview earlier this year that Saunier Duval's testing regime was not up to scratch. To which Simoni and Ricco just laughed and tried to change the subject in another interview in the same issue.
I bet he can't wait to get out of Saunier Duval. Don't forget that when he signed for them, he was coming back from his own ban, and probably glad of whatever contract he could get.0 -
Sure Bronzie, that's why I said "it's hard, near impossible, to speak out fully" in my posting above. The fact that he can talk like he is doing already is a sign of how things have changed. My point was that others have been saying the same for years. I suppose the fact that he's a Brit means his comments "new" for much of our media.
So how come several big riders are being rumbled all of a sudden? Is the testing regime better or just coincidence?0 -
I'm no expert but I suppose it must be a combination of better and more frequent testing, a greater unwillingness of the authorities to turn a blind eye (moan about L'Equipe all you like, but they have made it increasingly impossible to cover up a positive) and riders being arrogant enough to think they won't get caught. I'm sure we are seeing the tip of the iceberg, that is encouraging.
I'm still waiting for the UCI to come up with a coherent masterplan to take this fight forward. Catching people at the current rate gives the governing body an excellent lever in the anti-doping crusade. What are they going to do with it? Hopefully not bung it behind the nearest bush and walk of nonchalantly like in 1998.0 -
Regarding the naming of people, I don't see the point in someone like Millar doing something like that - not into the public domain anyway. What he should be doing is passing those names onto the relevant people (whether it be the UCI, team management, or whoever).
The same can be said for Bradley Wiggins. I was half wishing he'd named the rider that made the comment about how the French riders should try drugs because then they might not be so slow, but it would have achieved very little other than to give cycling more negative headlines in papers. Again, he should have passed that name onto the relevant people so that they could target that person.0 -
My post in the PTP thread on 26 July:I'll have David Millar for 17, 18 and 19 (unless SD withdraw because Salad Cream's up to something naughty as well)
Kind of prescient it seems now!
In a way I'm kind of glad it came out post tour, as it meant that DM still got to finish.
I wouldn't be surprised if he quits SD now though, he obviously doesn't fit in with Mayo, Gibo, Ricco et al.
Rule No.10 // It never gets easier, you just go faster0 -
Just a thought, but certain "doctors" are now not exactly welcome anywhere near a race like the Tour at present. Maybe the riders are carrying on the old ways themselves without so much medical assistance..............and fcuking it up in the process.Kléber wrote:So how come several big riders are being rumbled all of a sudden? Is the testing regime better or just coincidence?0 -
I wouldn't be surprised if he quits SD now though, he obviously doesn't fit in with Mayo, Gibo, Ricco et al.
He is in the last year of his contract and has reportedly signed for the american team Slipstream.
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