Look at the World Anti Doping List

kema

http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/document/2007_List_En.pdf

I've just download the list of banned substances and had a read.

Have a read yourself and see if you could accidentally be caught out?

Unless we are very ill (therefore not cycling fit) most adults could tell you what their medication their body contained i.e. asthma inhaler, salbutmol, antibiotics, pain killers ibruprofen, codeine, aspirin, alcohol from a cough syrup.

Therefore in my opinion anyone found with banned substances in their urine or blood is a cheat, and to claim they didn't know is lies.

A professional cyclist must have one of the biggest support networks behind them and at that level to claim not to know what is in their system is ludicrous.

Thanks

Kembo

OffTheBackAdam

One of the big problems is different constituents used in the same brand name in different countries.
A Scots skier got caught at the last Winter Olympics, his UK version of a nasal spray was passed as OK by the team doctor, the one he bought in the USA contained pseudoephedrine, his bronze medal was thus forfeited.
I didn't see a single antibiotic on that list, and I can think of no performance-enhancing capability of any such agent.

ut_och_cykla

Another legit(?) 'accident' is when taking protien/carb replacements that have been contaminated during production (e.g. previous process contained a banned substance) far fetched? But possible. And apparently taking painkillers that contain more than just paracetamol . eg paracodol. But I'm not sure about that one !!
And until this year you needed a TUE for nasal sprays containing glucocorticosteroids - my son who has a house mite allergy (&who has only competed twice) nearly slipped up on that one!!

kema

One of the big problems is different constituents used in the same brand name in different countries.

In Britain all foodstuffs and medicines must list their active ingredients on the external packaging that includes energy and recovery powders.

An experienced sport doctor wouldn't give advice based on the brand name they would ask for the packaging, and an experienced cyclist wouldn't take the risk of taking something they weren't sure off unless they were a cheat willing to take the risk.

This isn't the 1930's with no helmets, merino wool clothes, strap on pedals, sugar water, honey sandwiches and bananas; it's 2007 with Hi tech everything, maltodextrin,GPS, wireless earpieces, soigneurs, carbon everything, sports science experts everywhere.
No excuse with all the support they have.

People are cheating in all sports it's just a shame they're picking on cycling.

They should start on tennis, an endurance sport where women can put on 14 - 20lbs of muscle in a year, change their build, get acne, grow facial hair, get wider jawlines, hit the ball a lot faster than the year before and no one thinks it's strange?

AndyGates

OffTheBackAdam wrote:

A Scots skier got caught at the last Winter Olympics, his UK version of a nasal spray was passed as OK by the team doctor, the one he bought in the USA contained pseudoephedrine, his bronze medal was thus forfeited.

The Canadian version contained ephedrine, which is definitely performance-enhancing and definitely banned.

There is speculation that some supplement manufacturers deliberately spike their product with PEDs so it's clearly better - deeply naughty.

moray_gub

Digressing a bit looking at that list it would seem alcohol is allowed while cycling (though not recommended obviously) :-) Its banned in obvious sports as driving and shooting and somewhat bizarrely boules/bowls wtf ?

cheers
MG

kema

The Canadian version contained ephedrine,

Any good decongestant contains ephidrine, just like any strong painkiller will contain codeine, just like preventative inhalers contain salbutamol.

saying different countries have different ingredients is no excuse, athletes all over the world use this excuse every year, "It was a cold remedy !!!, I didn't know !"

When you take part in one of the most suspected sports why would you take the risk?

ddraver

given all the pro-plus, lucozade, ibuprofen i used to consume before a rugby match i'd say i was decidedly an anti-non-false-negative

given the people on the steroids tryin to turn them sleves into arnie i was probably bradly wiggins though having said that

OllyBianchi

In the late 60s and early 70s British cyclists who went to race in Holland and Belgium used to take over boxes and boxes of Boots honey throat pastilles to sell to the locals because, even in the lax testing climate of the day, it was the only throat pastille the pros could use on a dusty day - all the continental ones had too much amphetamine in them. Mercxks used to eat them like sweets, apparently.

AndyGates

kema wrote:

Any good decongestant contains ephidrine, just like any strong painkiller will contain codeine, just like preventative inhalers contain salbutamol.

saying different countries have different ingredients is no excuse, athletes all over the world use this excuse every year, "It was a cold remedy !!!, I didn't know !"

Well, that's true enough. The suspicious number of athletes with legitimate carry notes for salbutamol is a case in point - do they really all have wheezy pipes?

ricadus

AndyGates wrote:

There is speculation that some supplement manufacturers deliberately spike their product with PEDs so it's clearly better - deeply naughty.

Isn't that what Linford Cristie claimed when he got collared for nandralone – that it was a tainted energy bar, or something like that?

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