Contador & Evans - Clean?

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  • hevipedal
    hevipedal Posts: 2,475
    Contador was only implicated in Operation Peurto because of his name being mentioned in phone taps about winning a race. That is why he was cleared by the UCI so quickly.
    Hevipedal
    It's not only people that are irrational; 1.4142135623730950488016887242096980785696718753769480731766797379907324784621
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    By contrast Wener Franke from Germany, plus several others who have seen documents from the investigation, say his name is mentioned in the training schedules designed by Fuentes for the team, including "preparation" programs with specific reference to named medicines. Riders are named by initials, eg RH for Roberto Heras. There is a reference to AC and there was only one rider with those initials in the team.

    So far it's one person's word against another but if the UCI or WADA get hold of the documents from the Spanish authorities, things could change.
  • flattythehurdler
    flattythehurdler Posts: 2,314
    I'm with Wener Franke. I think that man has more balls than half of the peleton. So to speak.
    Dan
  • caracolito
    caracolito Posts: 55
    flattythehurdler wrote:
    I'm with Wener Franke. I think that man has more balls than half of the peleton. So to speak.

    Sure, he's got at least one more than LA.

    documents were 'dropped' into his bag. So, why aren't they in court yet? Eurosport quote him giving the docs to the German police. So, either we see AC stripped, or Franke having 'shower mates'.
    Going uphill fast, is easy; all you need are legs and lungs. Going downhill fast is hard... you need... balls.
  • northturton
    northturton Posts: 66
    Contador is a Discovery rider the truty will eventually come out... I'd love to know this - if Discovery riders do dope, how do they mask it?

    Correct me if I'm mistaken but when you consider Heras was a Discovery rider, so too Floyd Landis, and so too Tyler Hamilton - when they moved on to pastures new, what happened? They get caught doping. Now what is the chances in that?
  • Nae-neck
    Nae-neck Posts: 49
    I have major suspicions that Contador has a dodgy past. He seems to me pretty clearly linked to OP:

    http://sport.guardian.co.uk/tourdefranc ... 72,00.html

    I saw him winning Paris-Nice early in the season and he looked a good young rider then but not this years TdF m-j. Best of luck to him if clean now but hope he is caught, along with all junkies in cycling, if guilty.

    There is so much bad publicity re cycling and dopage just now but the bottom line is that, along with athletics, at least cycling is doing something about it; nobody can tell me that there is no doping going on in football but I see no evidence of them doing much about it.

    Evans may be a bit of a moaner and drafter but maybe that's because he's clean; as earlier observed, he's never done an 'out of this world stage win'...
    Live your dreams - no-one else will do it for you!
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    northturton wrote:
    Correct me if I'm mistaken but when you consider Heras was a Discovery rider, so too Floyd Landis, and so too Tyler Hamilton - when they moved on to pastures new, what happened? They get caught doping. Now what is the chances in that?

    You're just seeing it how you want to see it.

    Heras came from the Saiz system before USPS, Hamilton went to CSC and started working with Cecchini and Landis went to Phonak and used their system.

    I could also argue they got significantly better results when not riding for Postal / Disco, so what does that mean?

    Not saying they're not a dodgy team but wheeling out failed dope tests when riders leave isn't evidence of anything.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • caracolito
    caracolito Posts: 55
    northturton wrote:
    Correct me if I'm mistaken but when you consider Heras was a Discovery rider, so too Floyd Landis, and so too Tyler Hamilton - when they moved on to pastures new, what happened? They get caught doping. Now what is the chances in that?


    All you're saying is that while they were at discovery they were clean and after they've left, they went to the 'evil side'. Aren't you? What? No?

    Mercx was not a discovery rider and he doped.
    Viranque was not a discovery rider and he 'brushed' with drugs
    The Lion of Flanders doped. He was not a disco rider.
    Mr "I am leading the cleanest team, except for one guy, and me at the tour of 96" was not a discovery rider... I can go on forever.

    Mayo was/is not a discovery rider.


    Riders dope. Their teams help them. Their 'trainers' help them.

    Show me a team that has not a rider that was caught, and I'll tell you their French. Oh, the labs are French too. hmmm....
    Going uphill fast, is easy; all you need are legs and lungs. Going downhill fast is hard... you need... balls.
  • nick hanson
    nick hanson Posts: 1,655
    iainf72 wrote:
    northturton wrote:

    I could also argue they got significantly better results when not riding for Postal / Disco, so what does that mean?
    They were acting as domestiques whilst at Postal/Disco,so should have achieved better results afterwards
    so many cols,so little time!

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