brake and gear shifter upgrade

kenone
kenone Posts: 113
edited July 2007 in MTB buying advice
Hey,
Lookin to upgrade my brakes to hydraulic, and change the shifters on my spec hardrock, Currently running 6 inch shimano rotors-is it worth keeping them and just changing rest of brake system? Shifters are integrated so will have to be changed anyway. Thanks in advance.....
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  • kenone
    kenone Posts: 113
    Ha! Im lookin for advice on what products to go for can spend up to 150 squid cheers
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  • creeky
    creeky Posts: 57
    Will this be usefull?

    http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopi ... 6#14540226
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  • ddoogie
    ddoogie Posts: 4,159
    It totally depends on what set up you have at the moment as to the best gear shifters to buy. If you have an 8-speed bike it might well be worth looking into an upgrade to 9-speed as the two aren't compatible.

    Of course you could just buy 8-speed shifters but 9-speed is the norm and always a primary thing to upgrade to.

    If you want to stick with 8-speed then go for a set of Shimano LX brakes and a set of XT shifters from Merlincycles.co.uk. Should come to £150.
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  • creeky
    creeky Posts: 57
    hi. I am in the same situation. Whats involved in changing from a 8 speed to a 9 speed? Is it something i can do?
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  • Scubar
    Scubar Posts: 453
    Depends what parts you already have Creeky, usually it will consist of these things give or take a couple depending on what you buy. BB, Chainset, Front Mech, Rear Mech, Cassette, Chain,Shifters.
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  • ddoogie
    ddoogie Posts: 4,159
    Not quite true.

    You will only need a new set of shifters, a cassette and a chain. The rest is interchangeable.
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  • Scubar
    Scubar Posts: 453
    correct me if im wrong but last i heard you cant use an alivio front mech, rear mech and chainset for a 9sp setup. lowest you can use is standard Deore.
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  • ddoogie
    ddoogie Posts: 4,159
    You are part right,

    Acera is the 8-speed specific groupset. It is also the standard rear mech on the Hardrock Sport Disc. So the rear mech will need to be changed if that's the case.

    The Hardrock does, however, come with a Truvativ crankset that is perfectly compatible with 9-speed set ups.
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  • kenone
    kenone Posts: 113
    ddoogie wrote:
    It totally depends on what set up you have at the moment as to the best gear shifters to buy. If you have an 8-speed bike it might well be worth looking into an upgrade to 9-speed as the two aren't compatible.

    Of course you could just buy 8-speed shifters but 9-speed is the norm and always a primary thing to upgrade to.

    If you want to stick with 8-speed then go for a set of Shimano LX brakes and a set of XT shifters from Merlincycles.co.uk. Should come to £150.

    Just found a set of xtr brakes (06 model) for 135 squid, seems like a pretty good price plus their dual control so no need to get some new shifters.
    Waddya reckon??
    Also was looking at new cassettes and do i need to spend extra money for a lighter one or will a shimano deore /sram equivalent do the trick. Thanks for your help, this bike is startin to burn a fat hole in the walle thought......
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  • ddoogie
    ddoogie Posts: 4,159
    Well you will need to pick up a new cassette, chain and mech in that case.

    XT cassette, SRAM PC971 chain and an XT mech would be ideal.
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  • kenone
    kenone Posts: 113
    also do i have to buy splined or bolted discs for centre lock fitment, looks like splined to me, and if so how the funk do i get them off/on! looks like some sort of rivet attachment.
    cheers
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Splined rotors use a Shimano cassette tool to remove. Have you tried dual control? With all these upgrades I'd be tempted to sell up and buy a new bike!
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  • Scubar
    Scubar Posts: 453
    IF you havent tried dual control i would suggest you try them before buying. They are extremely weird to use if your used to normal levers and rapidfire.
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  • al_yrpal
    al_yrpal Posts: 102
    Dual Control are magic! I am a total convert - Shimano XT

    One of the worse 10 products according to MBR - naaah!

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  • ddoogie
    ddoogie Posts: 4,159
    I too am a dual control convert. I never want to go back to rapid fire.
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  • kenone
    kenone Posts: 113
    supersonic wrote:
    Splined rotors use a Shimano cassette tool to remove. Have you tried dual control? With all these upgrades I'd be tempted to sell up and buy a new bike!
    considering the near 200 squid i spent on new forks im not upgrading my bike !! frame may be heavy but im happy with it. What can i buy bike wise that will make it much better than wot ive got after the upgrades ive made???
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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    It was just an option! I am of firm belief that certain frames should only be upgraded so far, because then the frame becomes the expensive weak link. But if you are happy, then thats fine, just an idea

    For example, look here:

    http://www.boardmanbikes.com/

    at the comp.

    Or the carrera fury. Be lighter and better specced IMHO.
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