Peak form for
3 weeks a year and then vanish. How credible is this form?
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Worked for Armstrong, so err must be credible then0
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Who are you talking about? Could apply to so many people.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0
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Well, though it not Rasmussen's fault that people are suspcious, a list of Grand Tour winners before him have been shown up, so why should we be anything other than totally suspicious of Rasmussen? the form for 3 weeks and then gone doesn't impress me anymore0
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Dave_1 wrote:Well, though it not Rasmussen's fault that people are suspcious, a list of Grand Tour winners before him have been shown up, so why should we be anything other than totally suspicious of Rasmussen? the form for 3 weeks and then gone doesn't impress me anymore
I think the same thing, but I suspect many more of similar practices.
And its not just TdF riders. Why is Gibo always on the podium for the Giro and then nowhere for the rest of the year?It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0
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He rode the Giro so it's hardly like he's been hiding away in secret training camps is it?0
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iainf72 wrote:
He got shot and his body couldn't take more than one concerted effort a year.
Lemond has always stated that he regretted not being able to go for the classics or important week long stage races post shooting. LBL was a particular sore point.
Palmares looks pretty good for 89 though.It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
iainf72 wrote:
To be fair Iain, Greg struggled badly in 1988..all season...it is quite possible his body wasn't the same again after the accident. Lemond's average speeds at the TDF in 1986, 1990, as he has since pointed out, wouldn't see him near the first 20 overall all now. I think Lemond's slow Alpe Du Huez ascent's and tactical 1989,1990 wins are something to believe in...they both owed more to tactics than form. Lemond's 1989 season was good to October I recall, he won the worlds.0 -
Timoid wrote:He got shot and his body couldn't take more than one concerted effort a year.
Lemond has always stated that he regretted not being able to go for the classics or important week long stage races post shooting. LBL was a particular sore point.
Palmares looks pretty good for 89 though.
Yep, so he got more frail and couldn't maange what he did in his youth. And Rasmussen is about as frail as they get.
If you're going to peak for one thing, it may as well be the French race....Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
andyppro wrote:He rode the Giro so it's hardly like he's been hiding away in secret training camps is it?
True Andy
but I think the hiding away in the Andes type training camps don't happen, I think any rider must race in May and June to win the Tour in July. I'm in a phase of being cynical...the stuff out of Italy recently, not to mentioned out of Spain, Landis. Anyway, I could be wrong..0 -
"Dave_1 wrote:
but I think the hiding away in the Andes type training camps don't happen, I think any rider must race in May and June to win the Tour in July. I'm in a phase of being cynical...the stuff out of Italy recently, not to mentioned out of Spain, Landis. Anyway, I could be wrong..
This is one of these things it's difficult to prove one way or the other. Because people always used to race the whole season, it seemed like it was the thing to do - But was it really or was it just done "because that's what we've always done"
No doubt not racing opens up a whole world of interesting "training" techniques which can be used, but I don't think it's as simple as thinking because someone has raced into form their performance is more valid.
Also too much racing with the current style of riding is going to destroy anyone. Second hand doping effect as Mr Walsh calls it.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
