Format Conversion

norfolkguy
norfolkguy Posts: 114
edited August 2007 in The Crudcatcher
Hi,

Does anypone know of any software (hopefully a freee download) that will convert DVDs to MP4 format?

Comments

  • cyclone
    cyclone Posts: 181
    Very handy bit of kit.

    Nice one.
    I used to be undecided but now I\'m not so sure!?

    My Spesh
    BMBC
  • truespin
    truespin Posts: 155
    can rip to h264 format too - which gives much better quality for file size compared to AVI/DIVX/XVID etc.

    It does take quite a while to convert though unless you have a pretty fast machine though
  • cyclone
    cyclone Posts: 181
    What machine do you have and how long for average 2 hour 'ish film?
    I used to be undecided but now I\'m not so sure!?

    My Spesh
    BMBC
  • truespin
    truespin Posts: 155
    On my old 17" PowerBook it would take about 8 hours to do 2 hour DVD...

    that is on (IIRC) 1.33GHz Power PC

    I've not tried it on my MacBook Pro yet though - but that will be MUCH faster
  • cyclone
    cyclone Posts: 181
    Sounds like it takes about the same amount of time as Nero does to convert AVI to VOB.

    Hopefully should only take about 90 mins.

    Do you know if it's multi-thread compatible?
    I used to be undecided but now I\'m not so sure!?

    My Spesh
    BMBC
  • truespin
    truespin Posts: 155
    I'd be surprised if it wasn't...
  • norfolkguy
    norfolkguy Posts: 114
    Thanks, will give it a try.
  • russ0228
    russ0228 Posts: 228
    truespin wrote:
    On my old 17" PowerBook it would take about 8 hours to do 2 hour DVD...

    that is on (IIRC) 1.33GHz Power PC

    I've not tried it on my MacBook Pro yet though - but that will be MUCH faster

    your having a laugh mate get "dvd shrink" it takes on average 1.5 hours to burn a dvd. then for the owe de resistense get "pocket divx" which takes on average an hour to fromat it for anything from your your tv to your mobile.
    internet (in ter net), secret sanctuary of idiots and nutters.
  • cyclone
    cyclone Posts: 181
    russ0228 wrote:
    your having a laugh mate get "dvd shrink" it takes on average 1.5 hours to burn a dvd. then for the owe de resistense get "pocket divx" which takes on average an hour to fromat it for anything from your your tv to your mobile.

    And all that on a 1.33Ghz???
    Dont think so.

    I have a prescott 3.2 and that takes about the time you quoted.

    It's funny how the first impressions thing works on forums as well.
    You can tell when not to listen to someone's advice by their opening line.

    In this case "Your having laugh mate"
    It just screams "I don't know what I'm talking about.

    And what the hell is "owe de resistense "
    It's "Pièce de résistance" you muppet.

    The whole point of this thread was to get a free and preferably "LEGAL" download.

    DVD Shrink and Pocket DixX are not free. Just a limited trial.
    I used to be undecided but now I\'m not so sure!?

    My Spesh
    BMBC
  • russ0228
    russ0228 Posts: 228
    cyclone wrote:
    russ0228 wrote:
    your having a laugh mate get "dvd shrink" it takes on average 1.5 hours to burn a dvd. then for the owe de resistense get "pocket divx" which takes on average an hour to fromat it for anything from your your tv to your mobile.

    And all that on a 1.33Ghz???
    Dont think so.

    I have a prescott 3.2 and that takes about the time you quoted.

    It's funny how the first impressions thing works on forums as well.
    You can tell when not to listen to someone's advice by their opening line.

    In this case "Your having laugh mate"
    It just screams "I don't know what I'm talking about.

    And what the hell is "owe de resistense "
    It's "Pièce de résistance" you muppet.

    The whole point of this thread was to get a free and preferably "LEGAL" download.

    DVD Shrink and Pocket DixX are not free. Just a limited trial.

    why don't you take your head out of you arse and come back down to earth for awhile. you can breath much easier down here.
    i got the programs for free and i have a cheap £600 laptop and those times are indeed what it takes me. i may not be a computer geek but i got these progams f.o.c. instead of slagging off everyone, hows about putting something useful in. maybe it just me but i don't feel the need to slag off people on forums, i stand up for my self in real life so i don't feel the need to bully a screen.
    p.s don't take it to heart big guy
    internet (in ter net), secret sanctuary of idiots and nutters.
  • cyclone
    cyclone Posts: 181
    Appologies.

    I must have been in a $hite mood yesterday.

    Out of interest, do you know what spec your laptop is?
    I used to be undecided but now I\'m not so sure!?

    My Spesh
    BMBC
  • truespin
    truespin Posts: 155
    russ0228

    my times posted were for ripping to h264 (and ripped at a good quality) not AVI which is why it takes longer than yours

    h264 is *much* better quality than AVI/DIVX/XVID hence the longer render times...

    I just leave it running overnight anyway

    faster doesn't equal better

    when you say you got the for free do you mean they came with the computer or you acquired them nefariously - I was trying to give a free, legal and very well respected option.

    EDIT: not to mention he asked for an app for ripping to MP4 not AVI...
  • russ0228
    russ0228 Posts: 228
    cyclone wrote:
    Appologies.

    I must have been in a $hite mood yesterday.

    Out of interest, do you know what spec your laptop is?

    nae bother min. from what i can gather it has an amd turion(tm) 64x2,
    1.61ghz, 1054mb of ram.
    if i can remember right i got the programs fro majorgeeks.com
    i didn't catch the h264 bit sorry guys
    internet (in ter net), secret sanctuary of idiots and nutters.
  • shorty15
    shorty15 Posts: 97
    yep
  • TheNomad
    TheNomad Posts: 45
    cyclone wrote:

    And all that on a 1.33Ghz???
    Dont think so.

    I have a prescott 3.2 and that takes about the time you quoted.

    It's funny how the first impressions thing works on forums as well.
    You can tell when not to listen to someone's advice by their opening line.

    In this case "Your having laugh mate"
    It just screams "I don't know what I'm talking about.

    The whole point of this thread was to get a free and preferably "LEGAL" download.

    DVD Shrink and Pocket DixX are not free. Just a limited trial.

    DVD Shrink is indeed freeware and not a time limited trial.
    DVD Shrink - DVD Ripping and Backup
    Latest Version - 3.2.0.15
    Operating System Support - Windows 9x/2000/XP
    License - Freeware

    Prescott core processors are known for being less efficient at doing tasks compared to the Northwood cores (clock for clock with HT enabled, the Northwood, even with it's lower amount of cache, will outperform a Prescott in media encoding tasks) and also the later Core & Core2 processor families. The CoreDuo (not Core2) 1.86GHz notebook (running Vista Ultimate) I am using presently outperforms the family Prescott 3.4GHz (running XP SP2 Pro) in media encoding by upto 45% depending on the format encoding source and output formats.

    Nero now support mobile video format encoding within the Premium and Reloaded packages (Recode2) that they do.

    There are potential problems when muxing from AVIs (especially with b-frames/B-VOPs/bi-directional encoding) into MP4:

    1) "delay frames", caused by the old VFW interface some codecs still use (XviD, DivX5). only when encoding with VirtualDub/Mod these will be automatically dropped when using b-frames
    2) "packed bitstream", caused by the old AVI container, which is not really capable of storing b-frames. PB is used in DivX5 (only with 1 consecutive b-frame set) and by default in new XviD builds (make sure the PB option is unticked in XviD) and packs b-frames together with other frames (read a more detailed description about B-frames in AVI here).
    3) "userdata", which in the case of XviD and DivX PB streams signals the useage of PB. some decoders take this flag into account while decoding
    4) "vol", which is placed on every keyframe in AVI, but has to be seperated from the movie data in MP4
    5) "ctts" atom, which has to be written when muxing b-frames into MP4

    Currently only the 3ivx mp4 muxer and GPAC's MP4Box handle all these things correctly! Use only them for AVI conversions, especially with packed bitstreams or if you are unsure which b-frame option/encoding app was used. otherwise the chance is great that you will not get a 100% spec compliant MP4 file!
  • Jonny
    Jonny Posts: 4,374
    TheNomad wrote:
    There are potential problems when muxing from AVIs (especially with b-frames/B-VOPs/bi-directional encoding) into MP4:

    1) "delay frames", caused by the old VFW interface some codecs still use (XviD, DivX5). only when encoding with VirtualDub/Mod these will be automatically dropped when using b-frames
    2) "packed bitstream", caused by the old AVI container, which is not really capable of storing b-frames. PB is used in DivX5 (only with 1 consecutive b-frame set) and by default in new XviD builds (make sure the PB option is unticked in XviD) and packs b-frames together with other frames (read a more detailed description about B-frames in AVI here).
    3) "userdata", which in the case of XviD and DivX PB streams signals the useage of PB. some decoders take this flag into account while decoding
    4) "vol", which is placed on every keyframe in AVI, but has to be seperated from the movie data in MP4
    5) "ctts" atom, which has to be written when muxing b-frames into MP4

    Currently only the 3ivx mp4 muxer and GPAC's MP4Box handle all these things correctly! Use only them for AVI conversions, especially with packed bitstreams or if you are unsure which b-frame option/encoding app was used. otherwise the chance is great that you will not get a 100% spec compliant MP4 file!

    Good job copy and pasting, and not giving credit to good ol' doom9 :wink:

    Oh, and since when was the topic not about ripping to mp4, not muxing? :P

    Anyway, I think enough has been said. There isn't a best encoder, end of story, so I'll just keep my mouth shut now!
    logoid4.jpg