Which Lock?
turborat
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Getting my new Ridgeback hybrid in a week or so and would like advice on which lock would be best.
I will be commuting to work where it will need to be kept locked up outside the factory. Also when I go for social rides it may need to be locked up outside shops etc.
As there are so many at all sorts of prices I would appreciate some help.
I will be commuting to work where it will need to be kept locked up outside the factory. Also when I go for social rides it may need to be locked up outside shops etc.
As there are so many at all sorts of prices I would appreciate some help.
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the biggest, fattest, strongest looking one you can afford and carry without dying. preferably two.
i use an abus D-lock and a kryptonite cable in conjunction.
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I got a set of these, the bike shop had only sold one pair as the were œ70........ got mine for œ30 ....... tough as anything else out there ...
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the biggest, fattest, strongest looking one you can afford and carry without dying. preferably two.
i use an abus D-lock and a kryptonite cable in conjunction.
winter: http://tinyurl.com/2xkbbs
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I'll second the big D-Lock and a kryptonite cable. I use a kyrpto Evolution D-lock with a cable. I've found the cable handy for social rides too, sometimes there isn't enough space for all the bikes or there nothing to proper to lock too or somebody forgotten their lock but the cables always copes.
The kyrpto Evo is 'sold secure' silver you may want to go for something that's gold rated, I see the new Evo is.
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by AINSLEY WILLS</i>
I got a set of these, the bike shop had only sold one pair as the were œ70........ got mine for œ30 ....... tough as anything else out there ...
http://www.masterlockbike.com/product-d ... &pid=10315
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Ditto, they are quite expensive here in the UK. I got mine from the US via ebay. Much cheaper.
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Depends where you live and what you perceive the danger of theft in your area to be.
My friend parks his Litespeed outside our local gym with a œ1.49 decathlon lock, which i think is mad...but after 2 years he still has it!
Makes my 7year old MTB commuter with a armoured cable lock look like fort knox. This looks good value to me to secure the frame, and then maybe a thin cable for the wheels:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=19088
It is sold secure, quite small and would put off everyone but professional thieves....but i live in a quite quiet town, you may not!
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which gym? where? i'll have a look.
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I've an Axa Defender RL ringlock and a cable (don't know the brand) that slots into it. In the Netherlands there's a certification program for locks if you want to get your bike insured - so check that whatever brand you're looking at is covered by your own insurance company (if they do the same thing in the UK).0
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hate locks, hate the compromise between weight/cost and security
it hate the way the more you spend the heavier they get
using a braided cable with a very cheap micky mouse padlock these days but it's only used in the secure(ish) carpark here at work
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I got my Onguard Bulldog d lock with extension cable from Chain reaction cycles website at half price...at 15 quid!! its sold secure silver rated and comes with a really well designed frame bracket. Only draw back is the weight.0
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You could always consider a big chain that you could leave at your work place - no need to carry it with you all the time. A D lock like the Mini Ongard Bulldog is a good lock to carry with you.
The handcufs are a waste of money in my opinion - very easy to pick the lock - they use the same lock technology as standard handcufs. If you look in youtube you will see that even kids can open them up [:D]
There is a mini D lock by Kryptonite that is supposed to be the best D lock of all, quite heavy and expensive but that it is what I would have if I lived in London [:D]
I have replaced the QR of my wheels and seat post with Pitlocks so I now carry just a mini lock by kryptonite. Also, an alarm attached to the frame.
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Yet again this forum comes up trumps with loads of great advice.
Will have a look into a couple of the ones suggested.
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i saw the kyrptonite mini (ish) in evans, it was about 60 fat ones.
it weighed more than my bicycle.
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by AINSLEY WILLS</i>
I got a set of these, the bike shop had only sold one pair as the were œ70........ got mine for œ30 ....... tough as anything else out there ...
http://www.masterlockbike.com/product-d ... &pid=10315
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Ditto, they are quite expensive here in the UK. I got mine from the US via ebay. Much cheaper.
http://lifeonthetube.blogspot.com/
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They weigh a ton though, do you use the holder for them ? I removed mine to make way for a water bottle.0 -
I got this one from Halfords of all places, gold secure, not ridiculously heavy (although not exactly lightweight either), accepted by my insurance and so far I've been really happy with it...
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... ryrn_31389
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The first video is shot in two parts in front of Martin a reporter for Riders Digest. The last video is from a happy Almax Series III owner who still has his bike. If yr chain is locked tight to your bike and a ground anchor then this stops sledge/wedge attacks but it will always be open to a bolt cropper attack. If your chain is in the video or has a diameter of 13mm or less then the Irwin Records can cut them in seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC3hFr8p2ck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozppzywsLsk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfwgDuJV6ZU
One wonders how any of these products passed Sold Secure or Thatcham 5 min attack testing!!!!!
With luck in time the testing bodies will get a grip and start attacking security poducts like a scrote would. This should result in products that do what they say on the tin and offer at least a 5 min attack resistance.
With regards to D locks, these were not attacked as they can be defeated using a miniature bottled jack costing œ50 in seconds.
Cable locks can be cut in seconds using wire cutters from any hardware store, armoured cable locks buy around an extra 10 seconds. Chains that can be bolt cropped by hand are little more than a minor incovenience. Noise and time are the enemy of the little scrotes, the idea is to make them use power tools. When the cycle is on the road its more important to lock your chain to another object to prevent the bike as mentioned earlier,getting riden off or picked up and thrown into the back of a van!
I recently bolt cropped the Kryptonite fahgettaboudit hexagonal chain in less than 7 seconds for national tv station here in the UK.It will be shown on SKY in the first week of August along with a few other devices.
Disc lock type Alarms, ask your testing bodies why they do not test alarms with personal protection stun guns (600,000) volts. I did in the UK and got the answer "year we tried that a while back once and it was VERY VERY EFFECTIVE, but we don't test with them". Mmmmm wonder why that is then! however they did decide to test alarms with poxy piezoelectric zappers like the ones found in a œ1 lighter!!!!!!!!!!!!! You also get a 5-10 second delay on these type lock alarms, which is enough time to spank the lights out of the alarm speaker.
This is for your info, I have had to do my homework over the last 6 years to discover just what a disgrace most of the so called approved security devices that are sold to cyclists/bikers really are. This is the exact reason why bike theft is out of control and most bikers have the attitude "oh well if they really want it, they will have it! Yes they will if u use a security device that can be bolt cropped by Irwin Record 42" croppers in seconds! By the way we did not throw a wet blanket over the jaws so you could see the chains being cropped, a wet blanket would normally be used to reduce the noise to a small pop.
make it hard enough and risky enough to steal and they will just move on the next easy target.
I have also just destroyed a Kryptonite 3000 16mm D lock (Sold Secure Gold for Motorycles). I takes less than 45 seconds with a miniature bottle jack costing œ50 quid!
http://www.visordown.com/forums/showthr ... kryptonite
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I have a almax immobiliser 3 chain and a squire padlock. weighs close to 7kg i leave it on the cycle rack each night and don't take it with me. It's expensive but so is a new bike. My main worry is the lock and chain are exposed to the elements all day every day and parts of the lock are looking a bit rusty.
Anyway i lock it and have no worries over it's safety at all plus it's just outside my office window, my secretary literally watches it
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Hi, you should not have to worry about the lock, its guaranteed for 10 years. The plating goes after a while but the internals are fine. Just make sure every 6 months or so, just WD40 the key whole which will flush any grit out and do the same on the top side where the shackle goes into the body.Then put a few drops a oil through the oil hole on the underside, use a silicone greese on the topside.
I have had some Squire SS65CS Strongholds sitting outside for the last 6 years, with no treatment and they still work find. If you leave your chain out overnight its a better idea to do a periodic clean, oil and greese. Take note though squire use a soft key, so if you are using it every day it will start to ware down after about 18 months, the first signs of ware are normaly having to try the key a couple of times or so. The reason for the soft key is to stop the lock internals becoming worn.
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Alex thank you for the advice, i do indeed oil it and the key works just fine. The rust is just superficial.
I initially though i could throw it at a car if they got in my way. But i've realised i'm just not strong enough to carry it around with me everyday so i just leave it out.0 -
in a world where practically overcomes the ability to carry a lock weighing more than rik waller, some degree of compromise is necessary.
in which case, make sure your bike is unattractive and more difficult to steal than the ones around it, and lock somewhere very visible and not at night.
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Generally, it appears to be the case that your bike should be sufficiently ugly and well locked to make it not worth the effort! Female versions are less popular with thieves also too btw (allegedly).
For work place, get as big and ugly a chain as you can afford, and multiple-padlock your bike to it. preferably under the security man's nose, Leave all locks and chain there (locked up har har). Outside shops - I keep my bike within sight (like in a Post office or small shop), and rely on it's ugliness (low spec, bar ends, mudguards, insulating tape) to dissuade people that it's really not worth the effort. (And it's not btw!!)
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