Britains most dangerous roads
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Is this showing consistently bad driving, or poor engineering ?
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Britain's most dangerous road is a section of highway linking Lancashire and the Yorkshire Dales, a survey says.
The 15-mile stretch of the A682 has had almost 100 deaths or serious injuries in the last decade.
The report was compiled by the Road Safety Foundation for the European Road Assessment Programme (EuroRAP).
Head researcher Dr Joanne Hill said a further 16 road sections were adjudged to present a persistent "medium to high risk" to road users.
The section of the A682, between junction 13 of the M65 and Long Preston, was the only road in the highest risk category.
The survey found that the second worst road was the A54 Congleton to Buxton in Derbyshire, with the third worst being the A683 from junction 34 of the M6 to Kirkby Lonsdale in Cumbria.
Dr Hill said: "The good news from the survey is that many of Britain's authorities have brought in countermeasures to tackle the higher risk routes in their areas.
"Most are quick, simple and cheap, involving little more than adopting modern signing, hazard markings and junction layouts."
Dr Hill said that the A682 "fails on every collision type".
Rail crash equivalent
These included junction and access road crashes, collisions with rigid roadside objects, overtaking crashes, pedestrian and cyclist collisions and motorcycle crashes.
"The death-toll on this stretch of road is the equivalent of five major rail crashes within 10 years," she said.
"The foundation's consultation with local authorities over the past four years has consistently shown that lack of funding is the principal reason why they do not tackle accident numbers on their roads on the scale that could make a major difference.
"Other local authorities have undoubtedly saved lives - often by the simple application of white paint."
EuroRAP chairman John Dawson said: "The UK is now falling behind those countries it used to lead only a few years ago because its pace in applying the results of research into safe road design lags behind the best.
"Cutting road deaths requires combined action to improve driver behaviour, to improve vehicle crash performance, and to provide safety features on the roads themselves.
UK'S MOST DANGEROUS ROADS
A682 from junction M65 in Lancashire to A65 at Long Preston, North Yorkshire
A54 Congleton to Buxton, Derbyshire
A683 from junction 34 on the M6 to Kirkby Lonsdale, Cumbria
A62 from Diggle to Huddersfield, Yorkshire
A671 from Burnley to A59 at Whalley, Lancashire
A653 Dewsbury to junction 28 of the M62 south of Leeds
A1079 from Market Weighton to Kingston upon Hull
A53 Leek to Buxton
A726 from junction 3 of the M77 to Paisley in Renfrewshire, Scotland
A46 from Market Rasen to Grimsby
"We need five-star drivers in five-star cars on five-star roads."
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">'Most dangerous' roads revealed
Britain's most dangerous road is a section of highway linking Lancashire and the Yorkshire Dales, a survey says.
The 15-mile stretch of the A682 has had almost 100 deaths or serious injuries in the last decade.
The report was compiled by the Road Safety Foundation for the European Road Assessment Programme (EuroRAP).
Head researcher Dr Joanne Hill said a further 16 road sections were adjudged to present a persistent "medium to high risk" to road users.
The section of the A682, between junction 13 of the M65 and Long Preston, was the only road in the highest risk category.
The survey found that the second worst road was the A54 Congleton to Buxton in Derbyshire, with the third worst being the A683 from junction 34 of the M6 to Kirkby Lonsdale in Cumbria.
Dr Hill said: "The good news from the survey is that many of Britain's authorities have brought in countermeasures to tackle the higher risk routes in their areas.
"Most are quick, simple and cheap, involving little more than adopting modern signing, hazard markings and junction layouts."
Dr Hill said that the A682 "fails on every collision type".
Rail crash equivalent
These included junction and access road crashes, collisions with rigid roadside objects, overtaking crashes, pedestrian and cyclist collisions and motorcycle crashes.
"The death-toll on this stretch of road is the equivalent of five major rail crashes within 10 years," she said.
"The foundation's consultation with local authorities over the past four years has consistently shown that lack of funding is the principal reason why they do not tackle accident numbers on their roads on the scale that could make a major difference.
"Other local authorities have undoubtedly saved lives - often by the simple application of white paint."
EuroRAP chairman John Dawson said: "The UK is now falling behind those countries it used to lead only a few years ago because its pace in applying the results of research into safe road design lags behind the best.
"Cutting road deaths requires combined action to improve driver behaviour, to improve vehicle crash performance, and to provide safety features on the roads themselves.
UK'S MOST DANGEROUS ROADS
A682 from junction M65 in Lancashire to A65 at Long Preston, North Yorkshire
A54 Congleton to Buxton, Derbyshire
A683 from junction 34 on the M6 to Kirkby Lonsdale, Cumbria
A62 from Diggle to Huddersfield, Yorkshire
A671 from Burnley to A59 at Whalley, Lancashire
A653 Dewsbury to junction 28 of the M62 south of Leeds
A1079 from Market Weighton to Kingston upon Hull
A53 Leek to Buxton
A726 from junction 3 of the M77 to Paisley in Renfrewshire, Scotland
A46 from Market Rasen to Grimsby
"We need five-star drivers in five-star cars on five-star roads."
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"I'd clean my car with a baby elephant - if I had a baby elephant !"
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Britain has a low death rate on the roads. This latest fuss sounds like the accident prevention people trying to get more cash. Perhaps they all want a pay rise.
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We have a lower death rate that other similar countries which is not the same thing at all. Over 3000 people still die on our roads every year. Do you not think that we should seek to reduce this?
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Britain has a low death rate on the roads. This latest fuss sounds like the accident prevention people trying to get more cash. Perhaps they all want a pay rise.
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We have a lower death rate that other similar countries which is not the same thing at all. Over 3000 people still die on our roads every year. Do you not think that we should seek to reduce this?
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As Dr Hill says in the link, the ways to reduce road deaths on these roads 'quick, simple and cheap'. So let's do something quick simple and cheap. The council tax and other taxes have spiralled over recent years so it is a shame that some of this money hasn't been used to do something quick, simple and cheap that would save so many lives. What did these councils do with the money that was more important than saving lives? One thing is for sure, no extra cash is needed for road safety.
It's not the road, it's statistics driven by the kinds of idiots who use the roads.
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the A671 connects Burnley and Padiham (Chav capitals of Lancashire with the highest rate of incestuous childbirth in the UK) with Whalley (Snooty Ribble Valley shopping village by day and frighteningly violent drunken pub-crawling territory by night) so is used as a racetrack between the two. Get the picture?
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Will this be in the next local guide to the area?
In the 1870s, there were over 1500 deaths per year involving horse transport.
They managed to curb the speeding in Blackbird Leys, why can't they do it there ?
"I\'d clean my car with a baby elephant - if I had a baby elephant !"
Also the statistics do not mention the extent to which a high proportion of deaths on this type of road are essentially self-inflicted. A winding country road will always be more dangerous than a motorway no matter how much money is spent on it. If a few idiots per year kill themselves by driving recklessly on these roads why should the rest of us care? I've driven cars, motorbikes and bicycles on all but one of these roads many times, and I've never suffered as much as a scratch.
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Could it be because reckless driving can kill other drivers as well the the reckless driver themself? There is a chance they will hit another innocent driver as they spin there way across the road isn't there?
My wife drives that road twice a day. Must confess this report worries me.
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I avoid the place on weekends( same with Alston cafe/Bilsdale Helmsley/ Keilder) as they are infested with multitudes of the greater spotted Darleks*
Go midweek when all self respecting Darleks* are stuck in queues in their cars or watching Eastenders [xx(][:)]
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Economic Growth; as dead as a Yangtze River dolphin....
Economic Growth; as dead as a Yangtze River dolphin....
Perhaps should read, I rather fancy a bike like that, but the even thought of a bike with that much performance scares me witless [:D]
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Modesty forbids...[;)]
Economic Growth; as dead as a Yangtze River dolphin....
Economic Growth; as dead as a Yangtze River dolphin....
A682 from junction M65 in Lancashire to A65 at Long Preston, North Yorkshire
A54 Congleton to Buxton, Derbyshire
A683 from junction 34 on the M6 to Kirkby Lonsdale, Cumbria
A62 from Diggle to Huddersfield, Yorkshire
A671 from Burnley to A59 at Whalley, Lancashire
A653 Dewsbury to junction 28 of the M62 south of Leeds
A1079 from Market Weighton to Kingston upon Hull
A53 Leek to Buxton
A726 from junction 3 of the M77 to Paisley in Renfrewshire, Scotland
A46 from Market Rasen to Grimsby
Did anyone else notice the slight "Northern" bias in this top 10?
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UK'S MOST DANGEROUS ROADS
A682 from junction M65 in Lancashire to A65 at Long Preston, North Yorkshire
A54 Congleton to Buxton, Derbyshire
A683 from junction 34 on the M6 to Kirkby Lonsdale, Cumbria
A62 from Diggle to Huddersfield, Yorkshire
A671 from Burnley to A59 at Whalley, Lancashire
A653 Dewsbury to junction 28 of the M62 south of Leeds
A1079 from Market Weighton to Kingston upon Hull
A53 Leek to Buxton
A726 from junction 3 of the M77 to Paisley in Renfrewshire, Scotland
A46 from Market Rasen to Grimsby
Did anyone else notice the slight "Northern" bias in this top 10?
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So northerners are just bad drivers? Or is it because they can go more than 10mph whereas southerners spend their life in traffic?
i was lucky to avoid being snuffed by a 'chav' who 'negotiated' the bend on a couple of wheels one Sunday morning a couple of years ago.
A child from my children's school was killed on the same road when we lived in Kirklees. People drive at insane speeds on the A62 - that is the problem.
The suggestion that the UK has a low death rate on the roads is lunatic fringe stuff, which could only come from one who had arrested development and totally lacking any ability to empathise.
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this either breeds good drivers who slow down for corners and gradually learn the limits they should (not can) go to and do so with care, getting a little faster and smoother with experience while being ready to slow or stop as required
I believe i fit into this category
or it can breed bad drivers who, having just managed to scrape through find it funny and do it again and again, not thinking there could be something coming the other way.
Former major roads, often turnpikes much improved before motorways so relatively wide and fast driving.
Linking conurbations with areas of recreation.
Mostly in northerly lower-populated areas so relatively low traffic densities - yes, some of those Pennine roads are virtually empty at off-peak times.
Passing through agricultural land so plenty of walls and mature trees to hit, along with side roads, junctions and contrary traffic movement.
The roads themselves aren't of course dangerous; it's the users who are. On the short stretch of the A671 between Burnley and Whalley we know of a dozen places where cars have gone through the hedge in the last five years; that's accidents involving excess speed and loss of control. Every accident bumps up the statistics.
By contrast we live in an old, narrow lane, which is used as a cut-through by drivers racing through at speeds measured up to 55 mph to avoid traffic lights on the parallel main road. We have campaigned for 20 years for speed humps but Lancashire CC will not spend the money because we are low on the list of priorities. The reason? No serious injuries or deaths recorded. So we are victims of our own success in keeping our kids off the road.
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Also the statistics do not mention the extent to which a high proportion of deaths on this type of road are essentially self-inflicted. A winding country road will always be more dangerous than a motorway no matter how much money is spent on it. If a few idiots per year kill themselves by driving recklessly on these roads why should the rest of us care? I've driven cars, motorbikes and bicycles on all but one of these roads many times, and I've never suffered as much as a scratch.
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Could it be because reckless driving can kill other drivers as well the the reckless driver themself? There is a chance they will hit another innocent driver as they spin there way across the road isn't there?
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There is, but if we are to understand just how dangerous these roads really are, all deaths and injury to drivers and riders that are the result of recklessness should be removed from the statistics. For example, the Cat and Fiddle road is notorious for deaths because motorcyclists deliberately use it to test their skills, and many of them die as a result. A more accurate measure of how dangerous the road is would be obtained if only those deaths and injuries that happened to normal, sensible people were included.
I don't see why I should spend any cash on road safety on a particular road just because teenagers like to race their cars along it late at night at high speed.
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Isn't this the real problem here - the fact that they are designated as 'A-roads' when they are quite unsuitable to be classed as major routes for modern levels and types of traffic. If we want to preserve their character, we should downgrade them and reduce the speed limits. If we want to keep them as A-roads, we should adjust them accordingly - which means losing their character.
Now I guess I'll have to tell 'em
That I got no cerebellum
Gonna get my Ph.D.
I'm a teenage lobotomy
Now I guess I'll have to tell 'em
That I got no cerebellum
Is this showing consistently bad driving, or poor engineering ?
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Isn't this the real problem here - the fact that they are designated as 'A-roads' when they are quite unsuitable to be classed as major routes for modern levels and types of traffic. If we want to preserve their character, we should downgrade them and reduce the speed limits. If we want to keep them as A-roads, we should adjust them accordingly - which means losing their character.
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They are not classified according to level or type of traffic, or suitability, they are classified according to how they are paid for, Central Goverment-A road, County Council-B road etc. Hence in Cumbria there are "A" roads which have single lane sections, some controlled by traffic lights, and "B" roads which have dual carriageway sections.