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Road Deaths 36% Higher On Rural Roads

Bobby LightcyclesBobby Lightcycles Posts: 38
edited June 2007 in Campaign
The number of BVKs (Billion Vehicle Kilometres) travelled on Urban Roads in 2005 was 194.2, and on Rural Roads it was 208.1 (Source DfT), a difference of 7%. But the number of road deaths on Urban Roads was 1,255, compared to 1,742 on Rural Roads, a difference of 39%, or around 36% allowing for the difference in BVKs.

The question is of course: Why are there some 36% more fatalities on Rural Roads? Is it the generally higher speeds do you think, or could it be the increasing amount of congestion on Urban Roads, or a combination of both?

And it's interesting to note that despite there only being a 7% difference in BVKs, car driver and passenger fatalities are nearly 3 times higher on Rural Roads compared to Urban Roads - ie 1,112 compared to 429 (Source DfT). In actual fact it's 2.6 times as many.

But what is also interesting is that whereas the number of fatalities for car occupants - mile for mile - is around 2« times greater on Rural Roads, it's almost the complete opposite when it comes to minor injuries. On Urban Roads there were 105,774 minor injuries in 2005, whereas on Rural Roads there were 59,573.

I think it's mostly down to the difference in average speeds on Urban and Rural Roads. In other words, Speed Kills. Or to be more precise, the faster the speed the more likely it is that the injuries sustained will be fatal in the event of a serious collision. And the faster the speed the more likely it is that a collision will occur in the first place. The unexpected is bound to happen sooner or later, and the faster you're going.......

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  • Lads and lasses, boys and girls.
    Don't feed the troll.
    A two-post wonder, posting something designed to inflame an argument so he can go back sniggering that he has wound up those awful bearded Guardian-reading cyclists.

    Don't answer, or if you must follow Ravenbait's advice and take the wee. That's what these self-righteous little atmosphere hoovers can't comprehend.
  • JadedJaded Posts: 6,663
    It is arguing with itself anyway. It should be left in peace.

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  • <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ScumOfTheRoad</i>

    Don't reply to this person, they might expose our simplistic dogma for what it is. Far better to carry on in ignorance.
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    Worth paying attention to this guy. He knows what's what.

    SPEED KILLS -- SLOW DOWN
  • <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jaded</i>

    It is arguing with itself anyway. It should be left in peace.
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    I swear on my mother's life that I am only using one username. Can you swear the same thing about yourself?

    SPEED KILLS -- SLOW DOWN
  • JadedJaded Posts: 6,663
    It is arguing with itself in its own posts. It has a mother. Yipee.

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  • rothbookrothbook Posts: 943
    Correction. It is a mother. Thismarthafarquahar claims that the only thing a driver need do to remain safe is not speed.

    Barking.
  • <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jaded</i>

    It is arguing with itself in its own posts. It has a mother. Yipee.
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    So you're using two or more usernames to make it look as though people agree with you, and having hypocritically and wrongly accused someone else of doing the same thing, you have been made to look feeble and stupid. Some proverb with the words "hole", "stop" and "digging" springs to mind.
  • rothbookrothbook Posts: 943
    Bless. We've upset him.
  • <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rothbook</i>

    Bless. We've upset him.
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    Yeah, you can just see from the words I've used that I'm quivering with rage.
  • JadedJaded Posts: 6,663
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Bobby Lightcycles</i>

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jaded</i>

    It is arguing with itself in its own posts. It has a mother. Yipee.
    <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
    So you're using two or more usernames to make it look as though people agree with you, and having hypocritically and wrongly accused someone else of doing the same thing, you have been made to look feeble and stupid. Some proverb with the words "hole", "stop" and "digging" springs to mind.
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    [?][?] It is getting very confused!

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  • Speaking personally i would say that vehicles on my rural commute are travelling faster and less safely than when i started the route 6 years ago. I do not know whether my route is representative or not.

    I use the back road between High Legh and Northwich (Cheshire) and people appear to have started using it as a bypass for the notorious A556.

    I doubt if this special case is representative of the country as a whole though.

    One thought: there are few speed cameras on rural roads - is this where the maniacs are going to 'test' their skills?
  • paulwoodpaulwood Posts: 225
    cars these days, crumple zones, active seat belts, airbags not to mention helicopter ambulances. you have got to be a bit unlucky to die as a car occupant in a 30 mph crash these days unless you hit something big that doesn't move

    assuming urban traffic can even reach 30 in any event.
  • <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by paulwood</i>

    cars these days, crumple zones, active seat belts, airbags not to mention helicopter ambulances. you have got to be a bit unlucky to die as a car occupant in a 30 mph crash these days unless you hit something big that doesn't move

    assuming urban traffic can even reach 30 in any event.
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    The last study I saw revealed that the most congested cities had the fewest serious accidents.
  • CometGirlCometGirl Posts: 2,681
    I understand that research in California conclusively proved that situating stunning looking naked girls along the highway encouraged people to slow down. The demographic who speed (young men) were the ones who would slow down. Problem solved.

    I think we should petition the government to introduce a similar scheme here.
  • <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by CometGirl</i>

    I understand that research in California conclusively proved that situating stunning looking naked girls along the highway encouraged people to slow down. The demographic who speed (young men) were the ones who would slow down. Problem solved.

    I think we should petition the government to introduce a similar scheme here.
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    Which road will you be standing by? [:p]
  • CometGirlCometGirl Posts: 2,681
    The A1, slowly and seductively peeling a banana. [;)]
  • <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by CometGirl</i>

    The A1, slowly and seductively peeling a banana. [;)]
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    Some baby oil and whipped cream and speeding would be a thing of the past. [:p]
  • I think it may be wise to email Traffic Master and let them know there will be unusally slow traffic on the A1
  • dondaredondare Posts: 2,113
    http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4827/needpicsqh1.gif

    "da sapienti et addetur ei sapientia doce iustum et festinabit accipere."
    This post contains traces of nuts.
  • woody-somwoody-som Posts: 1,001
    people think cars are safer, and yes they are, so they drive faster. Black box technollogy, while I wouldn't want it, it could be used by the car to know where you are, and stop you driving way too fast for the roads, touchy subject i know.
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