Americans ban quick release wheels!

ju5t1ncp · June 2007

http://www.thnt.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic ... S/70611009

What next? - compulsory wearing of cycle helmets?

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Unkraut · June 2007

The 'compulsory wearing of cycle helmets' - now that might be something worth discussing ...

NervexProf · June 2007

Not suprising from a country that approved the Patriot Act!

Compulsory non- cycling, as with walking will surely follow.

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Cab · June 2007

Is there any truth in the claim that quick nick wheeks are less safe?

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Mister Paul · June 2007

So you have the right to bear arms, but not to bear QR skewers?

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Anonymous · June 2007

They're only dangerous if you forget to do them up properly...and if they're going to come undone its got to be as much to do with the design of the dropouts than it has to do with the QR itself....IMO

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Unknown · June 2007

they're easier to secure than bolts in my oppinion.

on the road · June 2007

Sounds like they've got too much time on their hands.

Joe Sacco · June 2007

I though the little tabs on the dropouts were there because of American problems with securing the wheels properly. Anyone got any stats on how many loose wheel related injries there are? Can't imagine it would even be worth worrying about, even in the sue happy US

Flying_Monkey · June 2007

WTF?

So where is the evidence for QR being unsafe? I have never known anyone who had an accident because of QR... does anyone on here?

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Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Flying_Monkey

WTF?

So where is the evidence for QR being unsafe? I have never known anyone who had an accident because of QR... does anyone on here?

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

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Never heard of one. Even if you don't clip them in, the tabs hold them and it is obvious even to the meanest intelligence that the wobble means you haven't tightened it up.

currieinahurry · June 2007

heard of a guy messing about on a bike he was testing from a shop pulled a wheelie QR wasnt done up now the guy has false front teeth.
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papercorn2000 · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Flying_Monkey

WTF?

So where is the evidence for QR being unsafe? I have never known anyone who had an accident because of QR... does anyone on here?

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

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Joe Sacco · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by currieinahurry

heard of a guy messing about on a bike he was testing from a shop pulled a wheelie QR wasnt done up now the guy has false front teeth.
tikka

hi my name is adam... and i have a problem with posting on cycling forums.
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He needs to improve his bike skills. I used to leave the front wheel undone deliberately so I could do a wheelie with no front wheel

redcogs · June 2007

my 'dropouts', front and rear, seem designed to prevent the wheel accidentally detaching in any event, but, i will freely admit to being a bit challenged by mechanical gizmos.

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Unknown · June 2007

If you can't secure a quick-release wheel properly are you really safe to leave the house without supervision ?

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Uncle Mort · June 2007

Sheldon (of course) has an article on QR and "lawyer lips" - which does mention a few potential problems.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_l.html#lawyer

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Rigid Raider · June 2007

Yeah, I can see it now.... just like that computer "funny" that does the rounds:

Technical bloke: "I suggest you take the cycle right back to the store where you bought it, Sir".

Customer: "And tell them it's faulty?"

TB: "No, tell them you're too feckin' thick to own a bicycle!"

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hairytoes · June 2007

Absolute lunacy.

One huge advantage that a QR wheel has is security; you can tell at a glance if the wheel is done up. If the QR is so out of adjustment that the wheel will drop out, the QR lever won't stay closed.

So I think they are safer than wheelnuts.

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maybrick · June 2007

what ever happened to james annan and his theory, was anything decisive concluded?

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Anonymous · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Flying_Monkey

WTF?

So where is the evidence for QR being unsafe? I have never known anyone who had an accident because of QR... does anyone on here?

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

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A few years ago a bloke called Russ Pinder - well known on the mtb trailquest scene - was riding at speed down The Gap descent in the brecon beacons. His front wheel and forks parted company, he went over the bars, broke his back and was paralysed from the chest down.

Cue lots of fundraising for the Air Ambulance service from mtb'ers and for Russ...and various allegations and debate about drop outs, lawyer tabs, QRs etc etc. Not sure if there is legal action in his case but there was certainly a debate surrounding his accident.

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Cretin · June 2007

I can't see how QR wheels are any less safe than bolted wheels. Provided they're not overtightened, and provided the materials used are sufficiently strong enough, theres no question over their safety.

Next they'll be banning chains. FWIW I've been caught out by chains more than once. Never by QR though.

andy_wrx · June 2007

MTB magazines, 15 years ago when I used to readd them, warned of a branch or similar catching the Q/R and opening it, the wheel would drop out.

So you were supposed to do-up the Q/R so it went up&down the fork rather than horizontally backwards, impossible for a branch, etc to catch.

A lot of roadies do seem to fit their Q/R's so they are horizontally backwards, as that's more aerodynamic I guess, but I think you'd have to catch your Q/R pretty hard on a branch for it to open it, so hard that you'd kinda notice it happening...

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papercorn2000 · June 2007

You'd have to be going some for it to make a difference aerodynamically!

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Unknown · June 2007

I've never wanted to live in Nu Joisey anyway.

nolf · June 2007

Question- will the police notice if you haven't got quick release?

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Cunobelin · June 2007

There is a lot of confusion here....

The actual document was published on a US website http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2006/Bills ... 686_R1.PDF

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">It shall be an unlawful practice for any person to sell a bicycle with a wheel diameter of 20 inches or less, which is equipped with a quick release wheel.

For the purposes of this act "quick release wheel" means a wheel which does not require the use of any tools to be
removed from the bicycle.
A wheel which:
is equipped with, or has been retrofitted with, a mechanism designed to hold the wheel in place in an emergency, including but
not limited to a retainer clip; requires significant level of dexterity to remove, so as to reasonably prevent removal by a child, shall not be construed to be a "quick release wheel" for the purposes of this act pending before the Legislature as this bill.

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SO in fact it is more about children's safety.

It would appear that a "Pitlock" or similar would be exempt, as would all wheels above the nominal 20".

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Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Cunobelin

SO in fact it is more about children's safety.

It would appear that a "Pitlock" or similar would be exempt, as would all wheels above the nominal 20".

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Or BMXers safety, mind you any BMXer who tried to use a hollow axle and QR would probably be a Darwin Award candidate anyway!

Thinking about it though, my trailer has a 14" wheel with QR, I guess as a trailer it'd probably be exempt though.

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Kirstie

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Flying_Monkey

WTF?

So where is the evidence for QR being unsafe? I have never known anyone who had an accident because of QR... does anyone on here?
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A few years ago a bloke called Russ Pinder - well known on the mtb trailquest scene - was riding at speed down The Gap descent in the brecon beacons. His front wheel and forks parted company, he went over the bars, broke his back and was paralysed from the chest down.

Cue lots of fundraising for the Air Ambulance service from mtb'ers and for Russ...and various allegations and debate about drop outs, lawyer tabs, QRs etc etc. Not sure if there is legal action in his case but there was certainly a debate surrounding his accident.
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I seem to remember disc brakes being particularly controversial in Russ's case too, something about the forces involved pulling the front wheel out of the forks even though the QR was done up (albeit maybe not tightly enough).

I had a friend who demonstrated it by turning his bike over, spinning the front wheel with the QR loose, and then applying the (disc) brake. The wheel was catapulted out of the fork. Scary stuff.

Anonymous · June 2007

Really? I didn't know about that bit. Wasn't he running pace forks? I know there was an issue with disc rotor size with SIDS - if you run more than a 165mm they judder like hell, but not with paces?

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andy_wrx · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by papercorn2000

You'd have to be going some for it to make a difference aerodynamically!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Err, yeah, wouldn't you just.

But there was a thread on here not that long ago talking about how Mavic made their Q/R's in aerofoil section and how good that was, then a number of people saying it was unnecessary, you just folded the Q/R in line with the airflow...

Worrying.

why is it sunny all week yet rains at weekends ?

Americans ban quick release wheels!

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