name me italian frame builders??
currieinahurry
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derosa
colnago
casati
pinarello
bianchi
tikka
hi my name is adam... and i have a problem with posting on cycling forums.
colnago
casati
pinarello
bianchi
tikka
hi my name is adam... and i have a problem with posting on cycling forums.
hi my name is adam... and i have a problem with posting on cycling forums.
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Battaglin
Moser
Ciocc
Nobody ever got laid because they were using Shimano0 -
Pegoretti
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CBT Italia. IMHO as good as any of the classic steel builders, just that hardly ever seen in UK. And their latest carbon stuff is lovely!
d.j.
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Simoncini
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Olmo
Cinelli
Billato
But which ones still actually build frames, and which ones are brands/marketing/design companies? Seems like some do a mix, the lower range frames are bought in or outsourced but the top frames are still built inhouse.
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Guerciotti
Alan
Atala
Masi
Legnano
Rossin
Zullo
Chesini
I'd rather travel by baby elephant than use Shimano.
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c4Fitter....healthier....more productive.....0
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Torelli-have a look at the site for interesting discussions on bike weight, steel bikes and history of TdF
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You could also add Alan, Pegoretti as well as Fondriest to that list. A lot of Fondriest's frames are made by Viner, for example. It's well known that a lot of frame manufacture is out-sourced to a handful of companies like Viner.0
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Know most of these but there are a few I wasn't aware of. Surprising how many really. And I'm wondering who sells the most bikes/frames? I am guessing Bianchi and Colnago.
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Im betting Dedacciai must be up there in total sales as you see their frames rebranded all over the place..Fitter....healthier....more productive.....0
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Dedaccia make tubes and frame components, not the frames themselves - that's why you see their stickers - like Columbus or Reynolds. The likes of Colnago, Pinarello and DeRosa and still small-scale in comparison to the Taiwanese builders. But the reason you buy the likes of a DeRosa is you know pretty well who's build it. The reason that Colnago stopped building titanium frames was because they only had one welder and so output was limited, rather than some nameless bloke in a big shed who's on piece-work rates and is trying to meet a target.0
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Benotto is Mexican0
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Tornado
Fausto Coppi
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Benotto is Mexican
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Maybe now, but they definitely started in Italy. So the original Italian Benotto no longer exists?
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Dedacciai do make carbon frames, or at least there are Dedacciai branded carbon frames, saw it in a mag, but probably not that many about as it's only 870g (no forks) so œ+++.
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Tom753</i>
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Benotto is Mexican
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Maybe now, but they definitely started in Italy. So the original Italian Benotto no longer exists?
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Torelli is an importer. They source really nice Italian OEM frames from builders and put their label on them. A bit like Condor, but cheaper. A number of guys in my conference race Torelli bikes.
Cramerotti is the Canadian equivalent.0 -
I think you'll find that the Italians mastered the art of out-sourcing long before modern corporations did.0
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I've always associated Benotto with bar ribbon. IT was a revelation to me when I noticed Pro's on their bikes.
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Tommasini frames rock.0
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Yes their lugged carbon frame the Evol is just gorgeous!
http://www.tommasini.com/telai/evol_06.html
SIZE IS EVERYTHING! or at least that's what my LBS tells me.0 -
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look at the lug work in this
http://www.tommasini.com/telai/sintesi.html
!! wow !!
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Cicli Montagner from Vicenza
They used to be quite popular in Slovenia in 80's and early 90's. I own a former Montagner Sava Kranj team bike with Columbus SL tubing and 8 spd Dura-Ace. A lovely smooth ride and a great descender.0