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Sgt Pepper 40th and the BBC

SheddySheddy Posts: 942
edited December 1969 in Campaign
Can't believe the BBC are still milking this.
Agreed that in 1967 it was a jolly good album but today I'm not fussed if I never hear it again.
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  • redcogsredcogs Posts: 3,232
    Satan.

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  • Tone deaf Satan.

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  • redcogsredcogs Posts: 3,232
    Tone deaf uncultured foolish satan.

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  • ChrisLSChrisLS Posts: 2,749
    ...still don't rate it as their best album...but, hey I hope the beeb release the recordings on CD...
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  • 1967 saw the release of some great albums, but sadly Sgt. Pepper was not one of them
  • SATANcpSATANcp Posts: 46
    OI! WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE.[}:)]

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  • ChrisLSChrisLS Posts: 2,749
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by skut</i>

    1967 saw the release of some great albums, but sadly Sgt. Pepper was not one of them
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  • mangamanmangaman Posts: 704
    How about "The Banana album" by the Velvets and Nico

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  • MelvilMelvil Posts: 2,219
    Is it a bad thing to say that I've never really liked the beatles - and furthermore that I think they were one of the earliest examples of how hype and peer-pressure can transform fairly dull music?

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  • giant_mangiant_man Posts: 6,890
    I never want to hear it in the first place thanks


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  • Uncle MortUncle Mort Posts: 1,124
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Melvil</i>

    Is it a bad thing to say that I've never really liked the beatles - and furthermore that I think they were one of the earliest examples of how hype and peer-pressure can transform fairly dull music?

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    Of course it's not a bad thing - although liking the Beatles is probably one of the new "nationality" tests [:)]. I'd rate "Are You Experienced" by Jimi Hendrix (also from '67) above Sgt. Peppers any day of the week. I like some Beatles stuff but I'd only rate a Day in the Life from that album.

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  • on the roadon the road Posts: 5,631
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by mangaman</i>

    How about "The Banana album" by the Velvets and Nico<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Never heard of them [|)]
  • mangamanmangaman Posts: 704
    You ought to give it a try

    I still listen to Venus in Furs / Sunday morning / I'll be your mirror even though I've had the album about 15 years

    I quite like Sgt Peppers but I haven't listened to any of it for years

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  • Davs1Davs1 Posts: 97
    You really must hear it. It is actually just called The Velvet Underground and Nico. You will get it at any decent CD/Record shop. It is undoubtedly the best debut album ever released and certainly in the top 10 albums of all time.

    Virtually every "new, exciting" rock band of the last 30 years or more has basically nicked one, two or more aspects of the Velvets sound. Having said that, if it was released tomorrow it would still sound groundbreaking.

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  • papercorn2000papercorn2000 Posts: 4,517
    Wasn't Pet Sounds released about the same time?
    Pretty good year for memorable albums.

    The VU + Nico album is WAAAAY ahead of its time. Despite the fact that the German bint couldn't find a tune in an overstocked cough-sweetie shop.

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  • Alan HAlan H Posts: 159
    So, which artist sold the most records in the Summer of Love that was 1967? Entries on the back of an email please.
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    The Velvet Underground and nico
    Captain Beefheart - Safe as Milk
    Absolutely Free - Frank Zappa
    piper at the gates of dawn - Pink Floyd
    a rainbow in curved air - terry riley
    axis: bold as love - hendrix
    Moby Grape
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    Seriously, some of the tracks on Sgt. Pepper are truly lame. "Within you, without you" anyone? When I'm 64?
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    So, which artist sold the most records in the Summer of Love that was 1967? Entries on the back of an email please.

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    Cliff Richard?
  • Alan HAlan H Posts: 159
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by skut</i>
    Cliff Richard?
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  • mangamanmangaman Posts: 704
    Was it Engelbert Humperdink?

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  • redcogsredcogs Posts: 3,232
    Most comments above are interesting, but don't take enough into account the historical context of the release of Sgt Pepper.

    As an example Harrison's song 'Within you Without you' can be read today as a load of embarrassing and judgemental drivel coming from the pen of a total hypocrite. But at the time, it cut with an anti materialist, anti racist (indian influences), plea for love and human understanding grain that was on the ascendant..

    All too sadly, the optimistic possibilities of that heady time wavered and we all either lost our way or chose different less inclusive 'philosophies'.

    Pepper stands up because it is full of insights and expresses them in an accessible nostalgic way, offering some pointers and criticisms of our ills, and not a few encouragements to the better side of our humanity.

    Lame today? Maybe. Then, in 1967, it was electrifying. i still listen to it periodically.

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  • Alan HAlan H Posts: 159
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by mangaman</i>

    Was it Engelbert Humperdink?

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  • mangamanmangaman Posts: 704
    Thanks Alan - great prize! In a fit of generosity I'll let you keep it though

    I agree redcogs - for me it's impossible to listen to any Beatles songs dispassionately as I've heard them so many times

    I still think the Velvet Underground album must have been even more of a mind-blower in 1967 (imagine hearing heroin for the first time) but I suppose the difference is it hardly sold any copies at the time


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  • ChrisLSChrisLS Posts: 2,749
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by redcogs</i>

    Most comments above are interesting, but don't take enough into account the historical context of the release of Sgt Pepper.

    As an example Harrison's song 'Within you Without you' can be read today as a load of embarrassing and judgemental drivel coming from the pen of a total hypocrite. But at the time, it cut with an anti materialist, anti racist (indian influences), plea for love and human understanding grain that was on the ascendant..

    All too sadly, the optimistic possibilities of that heady time wavered and we all either lost our way or chose different less inclusive 'philosophies'.

    Pepper stands up because it is full of insights and expresses them in an accessible nostalgic way, offering some pointers and criticisms of our ills, and not a few encouragements to the better side of our humanity.

    Lame today? Maybe. Then, in 1967, it was electrifying. i still listen to it periodically.


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    ...yes you are so right Redcogs.

    I don't think St Peppers was their masterpiece, maybe Revolver or The White Album...

    Skut, don't dispute your list of albums, there was some great music being made, but even Hendrix could appreciate the acheivement of St. Peppers.

    I think Revolver was released after, and as a result of, Pet Sounds, as Lennon and McCartney were always out to try and better the Beach Boys(Brian Wilson).

    Also don't forget what Dylan had been doing, his music had been pushing back frontiers, and also, he was the person who introduced the Beatles to drugs...
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  • jackhuntjackhunt Posts: 49
    Listen to it as most people would have done in 67 - in Mono. A totally different listening experience - far harder rocking and not fay an whimsical as the stereo version
  • Alan HAlan H Posts: 159
    And don't forget that Pepper - the first concept album - introduced a raft of techniques and studio wizzardry that soon became standard practice, not to mention, apparently, gatefold sleeves and printed lyrics.
  • Flying_MonkeyFlying_Monkey Posts: 8,708
    1967 was a fantastic year for music - 'Surrealistic Pillow' AND 'After Bathing at Baxters' by Jefferson Airplane, Velvets Hendrix and Zappa (already mentioned), two Buffalo Springfield albums, 'Mr Fantasy' by Traffic, the Stones' Their Satanic Majesties Request, 'Something Else' by the Kinks (very underrated and one of the best UK albums of the late 60s IMHO)...

    and...

    ... 'Forever Changes' by Love, which kicks 7 shades of everything out of any other album released that year... RIP Arthur Lee.

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  • redcogsredcogs Posts: 3,232
    We might all agree that '67 represents a bit of a 'golden age' for music in general 'Monkey, but why so non committal on the OP?

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  • Flying_MonkeyFlying_Monkey Posts: 8,708
    I think I am pretty clear which is my favourite album of that year - 'Forever Changes' - and by some distance, and I even prefer the Velvets and the Kinks' albums to Sgt Peppers... it isn't even my favourite Beatles album, although I rate 'A Day in the Life' very highly. Had Strawberry Fields Forever (from the same sessions) been on it, I might have been a little more persuaded...

    But I wasn't alive at the time so have so personal recollection of its immediate impact, but then immediate impact isn't everything... incidentally I'm very odd anyway, in that my favourite Beatles songs are (chosing one from each of the three main songwriters: 'Dear Prudence', 'Hey Bulldog' and 'Its All Too Much' - what an awesome piece of utterly powerful laid-back over-the-top feedbacked, shockwaved, multitracked psychedelia that is...)

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  • Have given it many chances but can never quite seem to get along with Forever Changes by Love.....

    ..... 's better than Sgt. Pepper though [8D]
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