Cretin

Tourist Tony · June 2007

You are sjdean on SS and I claim my œ5.
"sjdean
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject:

Im in a heated discussion with an expert in cycling group... Ahem...

One of his posts was:

Quote:
So allowing motorists to drive at unsafe speeds is now the obligation of
pedestrians. And bullies' victims should all behave thus.

"Simple physics!" , "self preservation!" cry the apologists.

"Don't go out to play, dear. You'll be killed."

I pointed out that this was more of a sympathy vote:

Quote:
How about rather, don't play in the road dear????

Response:

Quote:
It's their neighborhood, not the rat runners'. They should bloody well complete their road hockey game before moving the nets out of the way. Let the guests wait their turn

Im just reminded about what happens if an emergency vehicle needs access. Some people seem to think that pedestrians have no responsibilities on the road. "

If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick

Tourist Tony · June 2007

Another gem from cretin:
"sjdean
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject:

Keep Left arrows.

Well I learned something this week. That going on the wrong side of them are illegal. 
But Im perplexed.

It seems, if a vehicle has broken down, if there's some other obstruction, perhaps the bus drivers got out for a urinatory exercise, or maybe too many people have climbed on board leading to him switching off the bus for ten minutes, right down to some idiot loading to and from a van when he could have parked five metres ahead or behind... You're still not allowed to pass! There appears to be no provision for overtaking unless you are either instructed by a policeman, or you are a policeman.

Apparently you have to either sit and wait, or turn around.

Although this reminds me of the bus driver I was following once. A car had broken down ahead, and although conveniently there was enough room to squeeze a car through, the bus didn't have enough movement. So he went to the right of the bollard.

This is to me is an "exceptional" circumstance and surely allowed under such circumstances? But I can't find any evidence to suggest this is allowed, and everybody says it isn't?

Thoughts?

Simon "

My bold.
And you are apparently a member of IAM?

If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick

Tourist Tony · June 2007

And another. Again my bold. Just love the first line:
"sjdean
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Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Posts: 10

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: More Deaths

I think we need more deaths. 
The Government is stripping every bit of personal and social responsibility away from us. I can envisage a time where we'll have buzzers to press to notify authorities if we're having a heart attack, rather than anybody actually assuming responsibility and helping out there and then.

We're a nation no longer able to learn. We learn from our mistakes, but our mistakes no longer have any consequences. When there are no consequences, we have no responsibility.

Every inch of our lives are legislated. It's no longer good enough just to have "Dangerous Driving" and "Driving Without Due Care and Attention" laws, we have to make specific laws against mobile phone use. We are the country talking of legislation to stop people using their mobile phones while crossing a road in case they get run over instead of blaming the "victim" for being an irresponsible idiot.

This is the country that puts warnings on a pack of peanuts that it might contain nuts.

If a pedestrian gets killed, we'd rather legislate and make rules to restrict the drivers freedom even further. This philosophy has been entrenched in the minds of millions and is now accepted.

Why, even just the other day, some woman and her brood decided to about face and walk directly into the path of an oncoming vehicle (me) without warning.

Apparently, someone running under your wheels is your fault. Lets try and avoid the sniping shall we? I've had enough of people trying to analyse what I have said saying "you should have been more aware" or "you should have been slowing down". Take it at face value, as honest truth, I was travelling 20 to 25 mph and avoided collision with a sucidal woman.

Apparently, as a motorist, it is your responsibly to "guess" the unpredictable.

Perhaps if we had some more consequences, like people dying because they weren't paying attention to the roads, then maybe people would smarten up a bit. 
I was always taught about the green cross code and Stop, Look, Listen. Others will equate this to "No Johnny, you can't play outside", whereas the message we should be sending, is "Don't play in the road".

Do Morons Deserve to Die? That was the controversial question I posted the other day to a newsgroup. Perhaps it was harsh. But personally, I believe that I "deserve" (or at least will get what's coming to me) if I die by playing in the middle of a road by being an arrogant ignorant self obsessed idiot.

Bring back consequences, give back responsibility, stop dumbing down britain.

Cya
Simon "

You really are an obnoxious petrolhead, aren't you Simon?
CYA!

If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick

Tourist Tony · June 2007

And another:
"sjdean
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject:

Oh yeah, Im a fan of using a horn. But does anyone know where I can get a decent one from? Some kind of truck horn? I got a Nissan Primera and it's a bit weak and feeble. 
Would have come in handy a few weeks back, when I pull onto a mini island - sorry, roundabout, and some twonk in a BMW decides to pull out in front of me from the side road. I blast my horn and he gives me a good old fingering and red faced mouthing.

I've noticed the same situation with buses myself.

Mind you it's just exactly the same as that chap on the motorway who changes lanes then indicates as he's almost finished his move.

I prefer not indicating. That way people have to work out what you're doing

(joking about the last bit).

Cya
Simon

If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick

Tourist Tony · June 2007

This you, Simon?
http://profiles.yahoo.com/sjdean

and this is you about suicidal pedestrians:
http://forums.travel.com/bicycles-uk-cy ... ing-2.html

"Simon Dean wrote:
> Bloody woman and her brood include a kid in a pushchair, [...]
> These people deserve to be killed."

And here's a list of your newsgroups, Simon:
http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/a ... F22%2F2007

If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick

Simon L2 · June 2007

what with him and the other one, my choice in namesakes is looking pretty damn poor [V]

apparently he's 'lonely and desperate'.

Tourist Tony · June 2007

Don't you just love Google? I notice he's a member of a thyroid group, which would explain the choice of username. That and his stupidity, of course.

It's also interesting that he is in his 20s. Typical young driver--minimal experience, but "know" they are superb road users. Statistically, they are of course one of the most dangerous groups.

If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick

Tourist Tony · June 2007

This is Simon's considered response to Dan Cadden's case. Spotty herbert indeed.
"Simon Dean
Guest

Posts: n/a Re: Daniel Cadden Case Appeal Result.

wafflycat wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Several points. And made as a car driver as well as a cyclist and a
> pedestrian
>
> Daniel wasn't driving: he was cycling.

No? Was he?

Doesn't make any difference.

> Drive along any rural *main* road with national speed limit during
> harvest time in particular and you'll get held up for more than a few
> seconds by farm traffic. I know this from personal experience.

Yes. I know this. Doesn't make that right any more than cyclists... I
also know you'll frequently find horses down country lanes. Now, horses
generally keep to the left. Farm traffic is generally wider than a bike...

> Importantly:- At the original trial (I was there) one of the police
> officers said he saw Daniel periodically move into the left of the road
> to allow vehicles to pass him. Ergo- Daniel was being courteous.

Fine by me then. I have no problem with that... if that's what he was doing.

> DJ Bruce Moron ignored this.

So did quite a few of the news reports.

> At original trial 'middle of the road' was taken to be 1 - 1.5m out from
> the gutter - an entirely proper place for a cyclist to be. Many times
> during the original trial, when the prosecution said that Daniel was
> cycling in the middle of the road, Daniel politely rebutted this, as did
> his legal team, saying that he was no more than a metre to a metre and a
> half from the left hand side of the carriageway.

But he was driving in the middle of his lane and ergo making it
difficult for cars to get past him.

Though, as you say, he did move left. However if it's anything like some
of the cyclists I see weaving around all over the place...

> Also the 'queue of traffic' behind Daniel was actually two cars
> and a police car. So a grand total of three vehicles 'delayed' by a
> matter of seconds.

You don't hear this on the news either...

> The speed limit on the road may well be 60mph but this does not mean the
> motorised traffic will be going at that speed - particularly at rush
> hours. Indeed, it is entirely possible to catch up traffic that has
> overtaken you and then overtake it when you are on a bicycle, as it
> queues up in front, grinding to a standstill...

Or it can mean traffic could easily go at that speed if it weren't for
the inconsiderate nature of others...

I have a regular route to work... It's about a mile down a 60mph
lane.... I regularly get caught up by someone travelling at 30mph in a
60mph limit. True, some people will say it's a limit and not a minimum.
But some might also say driving at such low speeds is actually dangerous.

I would be incensed if I was at the back of a ten car queue of traffic
and there was a cyclist hovering in the middle of the lane doing 10 to
20 mph denying cars from overtaking safely because of oncoming
traffic... This is the picture that's painted by the news.

> Daniel wasn't in the middle lane of the motorway.

I didn't say he was.

> He was in the
> left-hand lane of the road. As a motorist, I'm quite happy to wait
> behind a cyclist until it is safe and legal for me to overtake.

Yes, me too, and I will give cyclists all the room I possibly can
because I realise there are all sorts of issues at the side of the road
like yellow lines and drain covers, and the last thing I want is for a
cyclist to swerve and end up going under my wheels!

But in return, I expect the same consideration to be shown back and for
the cyclist to give me and others around him as much room as possible -
ie as much chance to overtake as is safe to do so.

> The road in question is a short length of road, it was not possible to
> delay traffic by anything more than a few *seconds* at the speed Daniel
> was cycling at.

Define short?

> At the original trial, the police officers could not agree with what
> Daniel was wearing at the time they arrested him, so Daniel had to tell
> them..

????

> Daniel cycled the route with John Forester; author of Cyclecraft, which
> has been adopted as the cycling method to follow in the new nationally
> adopted cycle training standards. Mr Forester felt that Daniel cycled
> perfectly properly taking into account his safety.

Did John cycle with Daniel at the time he was arrested?

> At the original trial, it was given that the cyclepath was more
> dangerous, covered in glass and dog poo. I heard a policeman say that
> under the glass was tarmac. Did he expect the cyclist to levitate? The
> judge at the original trial said it was not relevant that the cyclepath
> was more dangerous

I agree. It's not relevent. Just as it's not relevent that there was a
cycle path there. I agree with the second judge in that the cyclist, has
as much right to be there as anybody else.

> covered in glass or dog poo, but that simply by
> choosing to use the road, the cyclist was automatically guilty of an
> offence. Which is a load of gonads and exactly why the case needed to be
> taken to a higher court.

> The original judgement was perverse. There was no case to answer and it
> should never have gone as far as a court case in the first place.

Oh how a different story is painted in the news.... as I say, you
imagine this spotty herbert cycling in the middle of the lane, oblivious
to anyone around him, travelling about 15 mph and holding up many cars,
not moving over once...

Which if that's what he did, then it should be quite right to
prosecute... just the same as it should be right to prosecute farm
traffic drivers who pass perfectly good layby's on their mile journey
between farms... just as it should be quite right to prosecute middle
lane hoggers who don't move over to the left....

Cya
Simon"
Edited to add the link. This knob gets quite nasty.
http://www.cyclingforums.com/t-382596-15-2.html

And according to one link, he only started looking for his first adult bike about a year ago.

If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick

Jaded · June 2007

He has a new camera:

"It's a neat little camera. I can record movies on it, take six mega pixel pictures and hook the f***er up to my TV!"

Doesn't take much to excite him - technology that is 5 years old. He might start a video blog. I'm sure Hall Green cannot wait.

Simon, did you get turned down for Big Brother?

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Jaded · June 2007

Another post:

"Maybe I should just face it.

Im a whiny little bitch and nobody likes me. Those who do like me only pretend to like me out of some misguided loyalty.

You know you're a sad freak when you try to organise a birthday and no one turns up.

Well, as Richie would say, it's a simple matter of I havent got any friends, so I might as well go and kill myself. Eddie, get the razor blades.

Cya
Simon"

He is quite self aware then.

Come on, this has to be a spoof - there's no way this blog could be real, is there??

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Regulator · June 2007

I notice that on his Yahoo profile he shows his marital status as 'Single'. Hardly surprising, eh....[:D]

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Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Regulator

I notice that on his Yahoo profile he shows his marital status as 'Single'. Hardly surprising, eh....[:D]

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For "Sex" does it say, "Would like to try it?" [;)]

andy_wrx · June 2007

Sex - he has tried it : see the post above...

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I blast my horn and he gives me a good old fingering and red faced mouthing.
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why is it sunny all week yet rains at weekends ?

rothbook · June 2007

Good lord.

Mister Paul · June 2007

cretin claims that he's not young Simon. But refuses to reveal his SS ID.

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Absinthe Minded · June 2007

If I were you lot, I'd forget him.

If somebody comes on here trolling - this sort of thing makes it all the more fun for them. When will you understand to ignore these people?

TT, you must have some amount of free time on your hands to be able to trawl the internet for this user's profile.

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See My route to work!

Tourist Tony · June 2007

I got irritated by his "I know better than you plebs because I have a car". One of the first bits I came up with were his rants on rec cycling, which were offensive. Even on his car sites he talks about peds deserving to die.

AM. I take your point, but hopefully young Simon will now sex-and-travel back to his obsession with the sims.
I believe the word is "owned"
Ay thenk yew

PS: Anyone else reminded of Stonecastle?

If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick

Absinthe Minded · June 2007

OK, so he annoyed you - that was just what he wanted to do and the only way you could have made his life happier would have been to alert him to the fact that you were annoyed by posting a thread about him.

So, that's exactly what you've done - and he wins. Same for the cheese eating swiss parachuting vets you mention so much. How long ago was that, and what do they matter to you?

Far better for you (and others), to forget these types - you're clearly never going to agree, so why bother - apart from to have the chance to snipe at one another, there is no point!

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See My route to work!

Jaded · June 2007

If they post on a thread and their post is left unchallenged there is an implicit acceptance of the post by the forum.

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Absinthe Minded · June 2007

Maybe to them - I can't see many people here thinking along those lines.

Also, a quick response denouncing the post as rubbish = good, whereas trawling the net for profiles, posts and identities = the best way to let them know they're getting up your nose.

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Cretin · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Jaded

If they post on a thread and their post is left unchallenged there is an implicit acceptance of the post by the forum.

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There is also the possibility that 'their' opinion of the post is that it is purile offensive nonsense that only demonstrates a lack of intellect and therefore does not deserve comment.

Mister Paul · June 2007

Jinx!!

(this is the new forum-accepted strategy to test whether the previous poster feels that their victory is dependent on them having the last word)
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Jaded · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Cretin

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Jaded

If they post on a thread and their post is left unchallenged there is an implicit acceptance of the post by the forum.

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There is also the possibility that 'their' opinion of the post is that it is purile offensive nonsense that only demonstrates a lack of intellect and therefore does not deserve comment.
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If you had actually answered questions posed to you that post might have some weight to it. You certainly didn't come here to discuss cycling, then when many of your statements and postiions were challenged you went quiet.

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Tourist Tony · June 2007

Finished on the Sims, Simon?

If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick

Cretin2 · June 2007

Hello Tourist Tony...

It's me, your bestest buddy in the whole wide world! Oh, how lovely. I got a stalker! You do realise that's a criminal offence? I guess it doesn't matter, since you're only a wee cyclist, and you can't do much harm can you? No, everyone else harms you.

My Yahoo account was 10 years old, as far as I can recall. My my medical thyroid condition is none of your business. Anyhow, im not a "member", or haven't you figured out how a newsgroup works?

My views might be harsh, but I do not like submitting to a nanny state. If people want to kill themselves, then let them get on with it, and stop blaming others. I accept responsibility for my actions. Others seem to lack that ability.

Sadly, you just continue to utter the rampant fevered mutterings of a mad man.

So, Tiny Tony, I see you've taken a bunch of my posts and posted them in an attempt to discredit me. Although, quite what's so wrong about pedestrians using the road with due care and attention and accepting responsibility for their actions, saying that I got it wrong about the Daniel Cadden case because of the appalling coverage on the news that paints a biased picture, and somehow, gosh, shock horror, finding that it is illegal to go the wrong way round a "keep left" bollard - even if there is a broken down vehicle, even though the police wouldn't prosecute.

No, the blogs mostly not real, it's a little tarnished in places.

I don't know any better than anybody else. I have my views, and my opinions, and I stand by them.

However Im a liberal, and don't seek to control and manipulate others into doing what I think they should do. People should be free to take whatever method of transport etc that they duly desire without petty recrimination from people who think that they know my life better.

I see Tony knows better than everyone else, since, apparently, Im Cretin, and Im in the IAM and in my 20's? Laugh laugh, I nearly puked! Quite amusing.

I'll criticise anybody for being rude, dangerous, ignorant or arrogant. Sadly there's some sections of society who believe that criticism shouldn't apply to because they don't drive a car - regardless of any mistakes they might make. Who knows better than who here?

Anyhow, while I've chosen a pseudonym for this, hopefully, one time only posting, I would like to set the record straight dearest Tony.

Cretin <> sjdean

Cya
Simon

Jaded · June 2007

"I'll criticise anybody for being rude, dangerous, ignorant or arrogant."

What about illiterate?

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Mister Paul · June 2007

Or just plain stupid?

I think we'll call you 'Son of Cretin'

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Cretin2 · June 2007

Illiterate? Ahh yes, that's the, "lets side step the issue and complain about spelling, punctuation and grammar" routine that proves that I've won the argument.

Thank you.

Unless you really were serious, in which case, no, I won't criticise Tiny Tony for being illiterate. Education IS expensive now, and I guess it does take a lot to "cut and paste".

Cya
Simon

Mister Paul · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Cretin2

Illiterate? Ahh yes, that's the, "lets side step the issue and complain about spelling, punctuation and grammar" routine that proves that I've won the argument.
Simon

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Right. And what issue is that which you are arguing on, son of cretin?

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Jaded · June 2007

Oh, he's not arguing, he is merely trollng.

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rothbook · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> If people want to kill themselves, then let them get on with it, and stop blaming others. I accept responsibility for my actions. Others seem to lack that ability. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Is this the issue you mean?

The victim-blaming of the speedophile lobby, you mean?

A common sentiment among the obscure pro-speeding lobby groups, similar to rapists blaming the women for being attractive. Any child who dies on the roads is suicidal, right cretin2?

What a repulsive creature you are.

Cretin

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