Focus Cayo triple or compact?
I've almost decided to go for a Focus Cayo from Wiggle but can't decide between the triple or double. Both road bikes i currently own are triple(an old Trek 1200 and a Cannondale R600)and although I think I would manage the "normal" hills around where I live with the double, I sometimes cycle over in the west(of Scotland) and I'm not sure if the double set up will get me up the big hills. I just manage to go up the Bealach road to Applecross with the triple but as I've never used a compact chainset I'm not sure how the ratios compare.Can anyone advise please?
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A typical triple will give you 1 lower gear than a typical compact.
Until I get beaten on my compact, I'm going to keep recommending it [:)]
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I would go for the compact. It's what i've got on my focus cayo and find it good enough for everything.
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Compact every time, only downside is more double shifting, which may be irrelevant to you or a massive problem.
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Next time you do a steep hill on a bike with a triple, make a note of the lowest ratio that you need or can manage with, then check if you can get the same ratio with a compact double.0
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There is no such thing as a too low ratio for climbing...[;)]
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That isn't true!! [;)]
If you have too small a gear you will just never get anywhere- sometimes having to push a bigger gear than you want will give you a bit of strength.
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Thanks for all the advice. I'm still tempted to get the triple, I just can't see the dissadvantage of having the extra low gears and I know I'm always glad of the lowest ratio I've got on the Bealach Na Ba road.Have a look at the route and profile of the road I mean at http://bealach-na-ba.co.uk/bealach-na-b ... _route.htm
Oh and my mate has ordered a Planet X bike so we can compare when they both arrive.0 -
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That isn't true!! [;)]
If you have too small a gear you will just never get anywhere- sometimes having to push a bigger gear than you want will give you a bit of strength.
Pride speaks, but Elephants listen...
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I'll show you a hill that disproves that theory
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Thanks for all the advice. I'm still tempted to get the triple, I just can't see the dissadvantage of having the extra low gears and I know I'm always glad of the lowest ratio I've got on the Bealach Na Ba road.Have a look at the route and profile of the road I mean at http://bealach-na-ba.co.uk/bealach-na-b ... _route.htm
Oh and my mate has ordered a Planet X bike so we can compare when they both arrive.
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I have a triple on my winter bike. It was my first road bike and I was uncertain of buying a double. My summer bike, I specced with a compact 34-50. The compact is much more user-friendly. I find now that I rarely use the low ratio on the triple and move between middle and top cog but that the change between the mid - top ratio is at a less convenient point than the compact. At some point, the triple is coming off the winter bike.0 -
Get a "Compact" triple (yes they do exist). Lots of low gears, lots of high gears and only little gaps between them all.0
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a compact triple???? whatever next? a 10 speed front mech???
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Thanks for all the advice. I'm still tempted to get the triple, I just can't see the dissadvantage of having the extra low gears and I know I'm always glad of the lowest ratio I've got on the Bealach Na Ba road.Have a look at the route and profile of the road I mean at http://bealach-na-ba.co.uk/bealach-na-b ... _route.htm
Oh and my mate has ordered a Planet X bike so we can compare when they both arrive.
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I have a triple on my winter bike. It was my first road bike and I was uncertain of buying a double. My summer bike, I specced with a compact 34-50. The compact is much more user-friendly. I find now that I rarely use the low ratio on the triple and move between middle and top cog but that the change between the mid - top ratio is at a less convenient point than the compact. At some point, the triple is coming off the winter bike.
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And here is the rub...
For me it would be the opposite, the middle ring (42T, my fave) of the triple contains most of the gears I need for regular riding and most hills, but on many compacts my favourite gears disappear down the hole between the cogs and entails a lot of double shifting. I just have not found one that gives the nice spread of my triple.
I'd always go triple rather than compact double.
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Isn't converting a triple to a double easier/cheaper than going the other way?
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Go for the triple! I had a triple when I first started cycling and found it awkward and switched to a compact. I got on fine with it and too someone unfamiliar it is nice and simple and too the weight conscious you save a few grams.
I went back to triple when I started cycling in the peak district and carrying heavier loads to work. Outside of the peaks I hardly use the granny ring but once you master the trim function you find you can eliminate chain rub.0 -
I've just put the new Tiagra compact on my Allez. It also has a 28 tooth biggest cog on the back (standard is 25t). This means that the lowest ratio available is exactly the same as the standard Allez triple, but with none of that messy triple nonesense.
Not sure how this would stack up on your chosen beast, but it's worth a thought...
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