Cleat Position

ian baptiste
ian baptiste Posts: 43
edited May 2007 in Road beginners
is there a correct way to set your cleats [?]

i have my cleats set as far foward as they can go. however, isnt the correct way to have the ball of your foot over the pedal spinle?

what difference does this make? or is it just down to personal preferance!?

Thankyou [;)]

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  • Thats the way I have mine set, ball of the foot over the pedal axle. But read, (Off here IIRC) about someone putting the cleats under the arch of the foot. I would think you'd be straining the calve's with cleats too far forward?

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  • steve23
    steve23 Posts: 2,202
    i too have my cleats quite far forward, so am interested to read the replies to this one!

    ratty2k, i can see what you are saying on the claves front, i sometimes (not very often i might add) get calf cramp during a high intesnity event, like the end of a 10 TT.

    would putting the in the "correct" way, ie over the pedal spindle make that much difference!?

    sorry for the hijack!

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  • 2191flint
    2191flint Posts: 803
    I have LOOK 247 pedals with, red delta cleats, I believe that the correct position of the cleat on the sole of the shoe should be, with the centre line (marked on the cleat with a raised line), this raised line should be in line with the joint of your little toe, where it meets the foot. This should then put the cleat in the correct position, i.e. with the ball of your foot over the axle.

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  • Buggi
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    i agree with Flint, also think it depends on the size of feet. Not the actual size but some people have longer toes. I thought (and i'm relying totally on common sense here and nothing technical or scientific so forgive me if i'm wrong) that it's all to do with your knee position over the balls of your feet as to where they put the cleat. for instance my friend is a size 8 and she has REALLY long toes (they look like fingers!), so i would imagine that the cleat would sit further back for her than for someone with the same size feet with short toes.

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    2191flint Posts: 803
    Buggi, I think toe length/ foot size are probably relative overall, otherwise if you had really, really long toes you would have feet like an Orang-u-tan!! LOL. foot size is decided by length from heal to tip of big toe, and in some shoes (notably Clarks) you can also have a choice of width fittings. So I think that the cleat position is probably the same for most people with the exception of a cycling Orang![;)]


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    my friend would not like it if she knew you called her an ape! and i have to admit her toes are a bit like orangutan toes too!

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  • thankyou for the info. i have looked at my cleats, and they are slightly forward, compared to how they should be.

    does this really matter?
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    2191flint Posts: 803
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Buggi</i>

    my friend would not like it if she knew you called her an ape! and i have to admit her toes are a bit like orangutan toes too!

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ian baptiste</i>

    thankyou for the info. i have looked at my cleats, and they are slightly forward, compared to how they should be.

    does this really matter?
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    Only if you don't want to get the best out of your pedalling effort.

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  • they are about 5-8mm forward.

    does it really make that much difference!?[:D]
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    2191flint Posts: 803
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ian baptiste</i>

    they are about 5-8mm forward.

    does it really make that much difference!?[:D]
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    In the long term it will damage your knees and ankles, so best to get it right, you can do it by loosening off the cleat, but not much then clip in (on a turbo is perfect) and pedal feel what it's like, then fine tune it 'til the shoe feels right, you'll know because (a) it will feel right and (b) the power transfer will be better, when you have it perfect, mark the sole with a nick or something, so you have a reference for future use, My SiDi shoes have incremental lines marked on the sole, and the cleats leave an impression when screwed home, so you can set new cleats exactly where the old ones were.

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  • thanks for that info!

    my shoes feel right as they are though, but i suppose i am best changing them!?

    will this effect my riding at all, once i have changed them?

    thanks
  • 2191flint
    2191flint Posts: 803
    You will notice a difference, because you won't notice a difference, if that makes sense?! you will be pedalling and not noticing your feet, cos every thing is as it should be. And I'm certainly old enough to be your Dad, but Obviously, I'm not <u>actually</u> YOUR Dad [;)]

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  • ha ha ha! [:D]

    looks like im going to have to have a look at my set-up then. [V]

    so does EVERYONE have their cleats in the same position!? or at least should do?
  • fluff.
    fluff. Posts: 771
    I doubt it, like saddles, cleat position is a personal thing. And with modern stiff soled shoes, power transfer shouldn't be affected by cleat position. There's a link near the bottom of this blog (linked a few times here) on mounting the cleat near the heel, which seems to indicate as such.

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    If you really don't want to do it that much don't bother!! [:D]


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  • I have a problem where on my road shoes using look keo cleats the outside of my right foot aches after a while and feels like the screw of the cleat is digging into the right hand side part of my foot (its not as ive check and its a solid carbon sole) should i move my cleat back
  • i have moved my cleats, now i have toe overlap!!!

    is this a problem?

    thanks
  • beefcake2
    beefcake2 Posts: 157
    I recently asked in my local bike shop. According to their expert, he said that first ensure the saddle is set to the correct height. ie your heel on the pedal and your leg straight when the pedal is at the bottom of the stroke in line with the seat tube. Secondly, the ball of the foot should be over the spindle of the peddle. When your feet are horizontal on the pedal stroke, the spindle of the peddle should be in line with the centre of your knee.

    I am new to road cycling and he said this would give me a good position to start with relating to cleat position and saddle position.
  • sloboy
    sloboy Posts: 1,139
    It's not bad a starting position and you'll probably end up with a few cm's of that in all dimensions. The one I wouldn't worry about changing a bit is the "knee over pedal" one.