racing bike comments please

spur99
spur99 Posts: 5
edited June 2007 in Road beginners
Hello all

I would be interested on any opinions on the following

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PROF-28-Carbon-Ro ... dZViewItem
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  • sonicred007
    sonicred007 Posts: 1,091
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by peejay78</i>

    it's really ugly.

    winter: http://tinyurl.com/2xkbbs
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    And a blatant attempt to market an ebay sale on a cycling forum.
  • Simon Notley
    Simon Notley Posts: 1,263
    I particularly like the way that levers and calipers with 'SRAM' written on them in large letters are described as being Campag. The way the wheels magically morph between Aksiums and Khamsins between the pictures is pretty clever too.


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    If I had a baby elephant, I'd fit right in here.
  • POS

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  • sonicred007
    sonicred007 Posts: 1,091
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Nine Stone Cowboy</i>

    POS

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    What does that mean?

    Thanks

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  • spur99
    spur99 Posts: 5
    I can assure you I am not plugging stuff on E Bay if anything I would advise people to stear well clear. The bike seems cheap for a carbon frame and I wondered if anyone could tell me what the catch was
  • spur99
    spur99 Posts: 5
    and I agree it is ugly
  • Garybee
    Garybee Posts: 815
    It looks like it's trying to be a Pinarello. That doesn't necessarily make it bad of course, just ugly.

    Hypocrisy is only a bad thing in other people.

    Hypocrisy is only a bad thing in other people.
  • sonicred007
    sonicred007 Posts: 1,091
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by spur99</i>

    I can assure you I am not plugging stuff on E Bay if anything I would advise people to stear well clear. The bike seems cheap for a carbon frame and I wondered if anyone could tell me what the catch was
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    Hi Spur

    Your post never said stear clear and being your first post, it's bound to look suspicious
  • spur99
    spur99 Posts: 5
    Your post never said stear clear and being your first post, it's bound to look suspicious
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    no problem, just here for the benefit of peoples knowledge, I have found myself droooling over carbon framed bikes lately and am trying to work out which is the best for the money
  • <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by sonicred007</i>

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Nine Stone Cowboy</i>

    POS

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    What does that mean?

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    Piece of Sh...
  • Norvcp
    Norvcp Posts: 1,485
    They spell "guarantee" wrong. Simon has a good point about the "SRAM" on the levers, looks well dodgy to me.
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  • mrtz3
    mrtz3 Posts: 2
    this bike is originally from a dutch supplier, made in Italy, it comes in 2 models one with SRAM rival equipment one with campagnolo, hence mixup in photos on ebay It's a Racefiets 4US Indianapolis 4 bike. See full details on both bikes on http://www.fietssportief.nl/racefietsen-20.pagina.
    It looks to be a good deal for the money from a good Italian factory Esperia Torpado Fondri‰st in Itali‰
  • funny, i was looking at the exact same bike on e-bay this evening and also a cheaper version by the same company.

    It looks like one of those adds you find in the sunday papers for
    "incredible quality, brand name bikes, wharehouse clearance"
    with two matching marks and spencers models sitting astride them grinning like idiots.

    The bike looks not just ugly but <font size="6"><b>UGLY</b></font id="size6">

    if the components are what they say they are though it mike be quite a good bike. Just that it looks like something that a dodgy polish market trader would offer you.

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  • peejay78
    peejay78 Posts: 3,378
    it may have been hand-polished by valverde, but it still looks ugly, and i still
    wouldn't touch it with a 5h1tty stick.

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  • carlstone
    carlstone Posts: 602
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">no problem, just here for the benefit of peoples knowledge, I have found myself droooling over carbon framed bikes lately and am trying to work out which is the best for the money<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

    Planet X Ultralight Procarbon [:D]

    My bikes:
    http://www.filehigh.com/viewimg.php?f=29099&i=291574
    http://www.filehigh.com/viewimg.php?f=29099&i=317809
  • Almost certainly just as good as a Pinarello, just less profit! I rather like the looks. And doesn't strike me as a scam. Of course, those of us blessed with the means to indulge a philanthropic desire to give vast amounts of money to a manufacturer, an importer AND an LBS just for a fivers worth of decals, will no doubt mock! But then it's easy to mock...

    d.j.
    "Like a true nature's child,
    We were born,
    Born to drink mild"
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    I would never buy a carbon bike of ebay. Never ever.

    <i>If I had a baby elephant I'd train it to trample cagers </i>
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  • peejay78
    peejay78 Posts: 3,378
    "carbon bike of ebay"

    sounds like landed gentry.

    winter: http://tinyurl.com/2xkbbs
    summer: http://tinyurl.com/2hsagv
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    alright alright - typo. Mind you I regard my Wilier as being "landed gentry." [:D]

    <i>If I had a baby elephant I'd train it to trample cagers </i>
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  • andyhuf
    andyhuf Posts: 30
    Hi I looked at this bike a few times, in the end I got a Focus Cayo from Wiggle. The Focus is œ999 with a œ100 of gear thrown in. I am no expert but it is a great bike with great reviews.


    Andy
    Andy
  • peejay78
    peejay78 Posts: 3,378
    wilier is indeed landed gentry. a member of the aristocracy, although possibly the butler to my "condor of london".

    winter: http://tinyurl.com/2xkbbs
    summer: http://tinyurl.com/2hsagv
  • mrtz3
    mrtz3 Posts: 2
    Just bought two of the PROF 28" Carbon Road Bike Campagnolo 20 gear Veloce bikes from ebay. Paid on the wednesday, bikes arrived from Germany by parceline on Saturday. Brilliant bike,campagnolo groupset, campag hubs, wheels, shimano chain, seatpost, excellent high quality carbon frame. Friend owns a bike shop, he can't buy a frame this good for under œ1500 Absolute bargain not to be missed!!!
  • webbhost
    webbhost Posts: 470
    the catch is that the bike is in "germany" and will probably cost you about œ200 in customs charges before you get it!

    http://www.battlesnails.com/index.php?datastream=6
  • simmocp
    simmocp Posts: 203
    mrtz3 what are you taking about?? You must be REALLY tall if you've bought 28" bikes. Nice that they had Campag groupsets and Shimano chains. Shimano seatposts too, lovely.[;)]

    simmo
    simmo
  • gavintc
    gavintc Posts: 3,009
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by mrtz3</i>

    Just bought two of the PROF 28" Carbon Road Bike Campagnolo 20 gear Veloce bikes from ebay. Paid on the wednesday, bikes arrived from Germany by parceline on Saturday. Brilliant bike,campagnolo groupset, campag hubs, wheels, shimano chain, seatpost, excellent high quality carbon frame. Friend owns a bike shop, he can't buy a frame this good for under œ1500 Absolute bargain not to be missed!!!
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    And we really believe you!!! This is shameless advertising of items which are suspicious. Do you also do Ugandan inheritance scams as well[:D][:D] Go away - you fool.
  • simmocp
    simmocp Posts: 203
    gavintc, I was trying to be polite, but you took the words out of my mouth!

    simmo
    simmo
  • richardjallen
    richardjallen Posts: 691
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by davej</i>

    Almost certainly just as good as a Pinarello, just less profit! I rather like the looks. And doesn't strike me as a scam. Of course, those of us blessed with the means to indulge a philanthropic desire to give vast amounts of money to a manufacturer, an importer AND an LBS just for a fivers worth of decals, will no doubt mock! But then it's easy to mock...

    d.j.
    "Like a true nature's child,
    We were born,
    Born to drink mild"
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    My thoughts on this:

    When you buy a bike from a well known manufacturer through a LBS you may be paying all the markups in the distribution chain but those bikes are likely to be distributed internationally. Hence the manufacturer sells many more than the small importer you buy direct from. The well known manufacturer can afford to put money into design and quality manufacturing.

    When you consider how many bike say Specialized sell worldwide it explains how they can refine their designs and they will avoid jeopardising their reputation by producing low quality.
  • The Bosscp
    The Bosscp Posts: 647
    I wouldn't be surprised if the user IDs 'spur99' and 'mrtz3' are both operated by the same person / company.
  • ademort
    ademort Posts: 1,924
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by spur99</i>

    Hello all

    I would be interested on any opinions on the following

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PROF-28-Carbon-Ro ... dZViewItem
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    ademort
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