The boomers ate all the avocados
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Without house building, it's a zero sum game and then it does become a generational pitched battle, with single occupant boomers living in multiple bedroom houses while families live in properties totally inappropriate for a family.
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True. I think people got lost.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
How does your desire for higher density housing square with the need for large family homes?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
He's going to ship the Boomers off to the flats and repossess their large houses for deserving young families.
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Hold on. If it is not about old people living in big houses whilst the young* fecklessly consume avocados and coffee, what is this thread about?
*Mostly not so young any more.
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Large by what standard? 200-250m2 is a pretty comfortable 4-bed and you can build those with decent gardens at around 30 dwellings per hectare. I don't think there's anything to be squared.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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And that would be 60 new cars per hectare.
Also, I believe the definition of large is that it needs to be bigger than the one you grew up in.
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It's about Rick getting a bigger house.
We strayed away from that into housing in general. Which should be in the other thread.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Higher density presumably means making new properties smaller and/or building flats. How is that suitable for families?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Large by Rick's standards. He's the one who wants one.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
So what happens if I am sitting in a large house and fecklessly drinking coffee? 😊
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Good question.
Is retirement not the best time to be fecklessly drinking coffee? Works for me! 🤣
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I'm multi-tasking. It's not a bad feeling being paid to drink coffee 😄
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
So is everyone else from what I can see.
And Rick wonders how this country could improve productivity.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
It's OK, I'm on my lunch hour 😉
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Why doesn't the forum opine on what they think is a minimum acceptable square footage to bring up a family in and we'll see how that compares to what's available, shall we?
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Sounds like you need a bigger house. You probably hadn't considered that.
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FWIW that table doesn't even cover what we had for around 5 or 6 years until my eldest sister moved out (3 bedrooms for 7 people). Luckily my other 3 sisters were aged below 10 at the time but all had to sleep in my parents' room. Even my current place wouldn't be much over if we hadn't coverted the garage. We had 5 adults in ours for a year during lockdown and it felt pretty crowded at times even with the extension.
The only way to significantly increase density on most new build developments is to go to appartments and / or reduce the amount of public space, neither of which appeals to me.
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Depends how big the family is, surely. And are we considering outdoor space as well? This is a bit of a 'how long is a piece of string?' type question.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I get shit for being greedy for wanting a bigger house, so I’m curious what constitutes a house that is definitely not big enough.
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Not necessarily. And in any case, plenty of families happily live in 3 or 4-bed flats. There's no law that requires people to live in individual houses. There are already minimum space standards for housing. 3-bed is 95m2 for a flat or 102m2 for a 2-storey dwelling. 4-bed is 117-124m2. These are pretty modest but are what mass housebuilders are working to and are very similar to the typical 1930s 2-bed + box room. It's just building them a little bit closer together and adding in some flats as well.
Edit. Oh, I see someone has posted the table already.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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Isn't it more that on one hand you are saying your house is too small but on the other you want more housing bit in and around London that will require greater density / less space?
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Yeah, I don't think they are mutually exclusive. In fact, quite the opposite.
You know you can build upwards, right?
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The bit Rick lives in is already pretty dense. Victorian terraces are a good model. Noodly cul-de-sacs so that everyone can claim to live in a detached house are not.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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How many sq. metres do you have?
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