Kickstand... to be or not to be?

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Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby machinebike » Tue Sep 27, 2016 13:44 pm

I have a 2002 Rocky Mountain downhill bike and was wondering if I should drill a hole under the swing arm and mount a kickstand... good idea or not?

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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby Fenix » Tue Sep 27, 2016 13:47 pm

Why in gods name would you do this ?

1. Who needs a kickstand
2. Drilling your frame - I can't see any risks with this at all. Oh no. Nothing. Please let me watch your next downhill after you've drilled the frame though.

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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby Long Time Lurker » Tue Sep 27, 2016 13:54 pm

Bad idea - very bad idea.
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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby Angus Young » Tue Sep 27, 2016 13:54 pm

Why on Earth do you want a kickstand? It's just more weight to drag around and serves no useful purpose whatsoever. Lean it up against a tree, put it down on the grass, it's a mountain bike.
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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby cooldad » Tue Sep 27, 2016 13:56 pm

If it will kill it quicker, it's an excellent idea.

I would just use petrol and a match.
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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Tue Sep 27, 2016 14:11 pm

A kick stand on a downhill bike??????
What the hell is wrong with you? First rock garden you hit it'll drop and you will go headfirst in to the nearest hospital.
I wouldn't be drilling any part of a downhill bike.

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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby LimitedGarry » Tue Sep 27, 2016 15:26 pm

Kickstand is a bit of a strange topic, as a lot of people are against getting one and then feel stupid when they need to put their bike down in some of the most inconvenient places imaginable. I mean, if you get a proper one, it's only like 300-400 grams, doesn't rattle or anything and lasts you a lifetime. What's the big deal? When i got a new bike, I thought I would not get a kickstand, only to realize that it's something I really do require to have on my bike.

That said, if all I was doing were trails, I would most likely not get one and I would absolutely not drill holes into my frame to be able to mount it, no matter the kind of riding I do.

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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby Fenix » Tue Sep 27, 2016 15:29 pm

I've been riding for 35+ years.

Never needed a kickstand. Fences, walls, trees, cars, gates, hedges, kerbs, bins, benches, chairs, cairns, statues, snowbanks, cafes - there's always something to lean it on.

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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby fat daddy » Tue Sep 27, 2016 15:33 pm

LimitedGarry wrote:then feel stupid when they need to put their bike down in some of the most inconvenient places imaginable..


I have a very wild imagination, but even I am having trouble trying to conceive of somewhere inconvenient that requires a kick stand, but you cant lean the bike ... or lay it on the floor.

I suppose it would be quite useful if you wanted to park your bike in those really thin central reservations between lanes that don't have a barrier and are too thin to put the bike on the floor ..... I guess I could put the bike upside down at that point though

.... the only other place I can see where a kick stand would be essential would be out side the library or City Hall in 1963 if you were going in to meet Mary Beth for a study period

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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby cooldad » Tue Sep 27, 2016 15:44 pm

LimitedGarry wrote:Words...
That said, if all I was doing were trails, I would most likely not get one ...


It's a Downhill bike. That's all it's good for. (In theory, in reality this one may not even be that.)
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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Tue Sep 27, 2016 16:44 pm

Downhill bikes are only good at smashing down the nastiest hillsides. They're absolutely useless for anything else at all.
I literally couldn't ride mine up more than a gentle incline, and that was a fairly modern and relatively light downhill bike.

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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby Herdwick » Tue Sep 27, 2016 17:20 pm

Dude are stoned or something? :?
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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby FishFish » Tue Sep 27, 2016 18:11 pm

So I take it that a shopping basket on the front may not get universal approval?
...take your pickelf on your holibobs.... :D

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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby Jonesinamilion » Tue Sep 27, 2016 20:16 pm

FishFish wrote:So I take it that a shopping basket on the front may not get universal approval?


My six year old would beg to differ!...

And the kickstand will stop the contents of the basket spilling out :D

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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby LimitedGarry » Tue Sep 27, 2016 21:02 pm

fat daddy wrote:
LimitedGarry wrote:then feel stupid when they need to put their bike down in some of the most inconvenient places imaginable..


I have a very wild imagination, but even I am having trouble trying to conceive of somewhere inconvenient that requires a kick stand, but you cant lean the bike ... or lay it on the floor.


When you're somewhere in a remote area and end up wanting to stop for some refreshment and the occasional beer, they don't always have stands and even if they do, they often can't accommodate any wheel above 2". You can't just randomly lay your bike on the ground and they'll tell you not to lean it against the facade. On narrow paths, there may not even be a place to put down your bike without interfering with other riders. And everywhere else, it's a way more convenient way to "park" your bike. Plus, if you're riding in a group, it's a freaking mess to have 5 bikes lying all over the place.
All in all, it's a preference, and it happens to be a very strong one in my case. On long rides and tours, there's plenty of stops and having a kickstand is a huge convenience.

cooldad wrote:It's a Downhill bike. That's all it's good for. (In theory, in reality this one may not even be that.)


My point exactly. And he's considering drilling holes into it. :roll:

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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby cooldad » Tue Sep 27, 2016 21:15 pm

I sometimes ride in large groups, and no one has stands. I fact no one I've ever ridden with, which totals hundreds of people over the years has ever had a stand.
They are mountain bikes not touring bikes.
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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby LimitedGarry » Wed Sep 28, 2016 09:53 am

cooldad wrote:I sometimes ride in large groups, and no one has stands. I fact no one I've ever ridden with, which totals hundreds of people over the years has ever had a stand.
They are mountain bikes not touring bikes.


If you do touring through woods, fields, riversides and what not, you need a mountain bike for that.

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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby Fenix » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:22 am

LG - if you are on a narrow path - a bike on a kickstand is going to be a bit obstructive ?

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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby Angus Young » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:57 am

LimitedGarry wrote:Kickstand is a bit of a strange topic, as a lot of people are against getting one and then feel stupid when they need to put their bike down in some of the most inconvenient places imaginable.


Seriously? Never once have I ever needed a kickstand, nor has anyone I've ever ridden with. Who are these "a lot of people are against getting one and then feel stupid" people? I've never come across them. A kickstand is a totally redundant addition to a mountain bike (and most any other bike, too).
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Re: Kickstand... to be or not to be?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:58 am

LimitedGarry wrote:
cooldad wrote:I sometimes ride in large groups, and no one has stands. I fact no one I've ever ridden with, which totals hundreds of people over the years has ever had a stand.
They are mountain bikes not touring bikes.


If you do touring through woods, fields, riversides and what not, you need a mountain bike for that.


But definitely not a downhill bike! With 40lb+ of weight and 200mm of very inefficient suspension and super slack geometry it'll just be a whole world of hate trying to do any miles on it. You'd honestly be better off trying to do cross country riding on a Raleigh Chopper, thats not an exaggeration!


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